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  • #526
    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

    Originally posted by rufus View Post
    Cause like I said, that would have made all the difference.


    Not like not allowing this kid access to dangerous weapons would have, but you know, talking would have been far more effective.
    Waiting to see how he got the guns. Then I'll comment on that. And talking with him might have. He admitted that he wanted his story to be told, which to me says no one was listening to him.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    • #527
      Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
      So far, I haven't seen anything in this story that an attempt was even made.
      And that still doesn't excuse the fact he chose to act on it by picking up a weapon.
      Bullying is a problem...and it happens everywhere...hell i was bullied...so was my husband...we didn't shoot people over it.
      "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
      -Gallagher

      R.I.P.
      Grandpa G. ~ Feb 11, 1918-Oct. 6, 1999
      Grandma ~ Jan 2004
      Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
      Grandpa S. ~ June 21, 1932-November 11, 2013

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      • #528
        Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

        Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
        And that still doesn't excuse the fact he chose to act on it by picking up a weapon.
        Bullying is a problem...and it happens everywhere...hell i was bullied...so was my husband...we didn't shoot people over it.
        I was also bullied, and never used a gun to solve that problem. Points back to the person, not the weapon.
        Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
        Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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        • #529
          Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
          It is still a user problem.

          Drunk drivers kill people. We don't blame the car nor the alcohol.
          Heck, vehicles driven into crowds in recent times. We don't blame the car.
          Knife-wielding people kill people. We don't blame the knife.
          Pressure-cooker bombs.....we don't blame the pressure cooker.

          Notice a trend? We have to make sure that responsible and sane people are the ones who are able to purchase and own a gun. We've all pretty much outlined what we would like in that regard. It's just a matter of getting the politicians to act on it.

          (and "we" is the royal "we")
          Yet no one who ever makes the analogy about how cars kill people ever seems to want to make people jump through the same hoops we jump through to legally drive, to legally possess a gun.

          Training, testing, registering, and insuring. Lather, rinse, repeat every few years, and more often for those who prove less reliable, and take away for life those who prove unreliable.

          And please, no more slippery slope arguments. The slippery slope people have lost the right to make those arguments as we have shown as a society we don't have the sense to maintain a safe environment with 300+ million guns. I used to be one of those people, a more ardent defender of the 2nd amendment, but guess what, I HAVE CHANGED MY VIEWS AS SOCIETY HAS CHANGED IT'S BEHAVIOR!

          One of the worst problems of all is that those on the right will not admit they are wrong, about anything. Instead, they double down. I can't be wrong about MY gun nut stances, so lets put even MORE guns in schools. We've always had as many or more guns than people in this country. But mass casualty school shootings were not an annual occurrence in the 1970s or 1980s. Now they are, and in fact they will become a monthly or weekly occurrence sooner than later. So we have to change our thinking.

          Unfortunately that requires growth, maturity and an open mind. Things that the average republican voter gave up on a generation ago. Well, Michael Jordan knew republicans bought sneakers too, so I guess I can take some comfort knowing that some people who are losing kids in mass shootings are republicans. They (though not their innocent children) DESERVE the suffering being heaped upon them.

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          • #530
            Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

            Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
            If people had just been nicer to him...
            This is the problem today where little children are raised since birth with parents telling them they are a precious little diamond, unique in the world, and everything they do is perfect. Once they get to an age where they start discovering that they aren't special, they have people telling them no, or they face obstacles and challenges, they discover they're just a nameless, faceless 1 among millions, then they need to step up.


            Some do, and make the choices that they need to do to succeed in the world on their own merits. Some retreat into self-medication, with drugs and alcohol. Others lash out violently.
            What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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            • #531
              Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

              Originally posted by WeAreNDHockey View Post
              Yet no one who ever makes the analogy about how cars kill people ever seems to want to make people jump through the same hoops we jump through to legally drive, to legally possess a gun.
              *raiseshand* I have. Repeatedly.

              And also, what rufus said is truth.
              Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
              Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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              • #532
                Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                I was also bullied, and never used a gun to solve that problem. Points back to the person, not the weapon.
                And his access to them. I never has access to one and as such never thought to use one.
                "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
                -Gallagher

                R.I.P.
                Grandpa G. ~ Feb 11, 1918-Oct. 6, 1999
                Grandma ~ Jan 2004
                Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
                Grandpa S. ~ June 21, 1932-November 11, 2013

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                • #533
                  Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                  Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
                  And his access to them. I never has access to one and as such never thought to use one.
                  Waiting to see the access part of this story.

                  I had access to guns (sometimes through illegal channels) but never thought to use a gun. I was taught responsibility about weapons.
                  Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                  Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                  • #534
                    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                    90% of the kids I went high school with had access.
                    Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                    Waiting to see the access part of this story.

                    I had access to guns (sometimes through illegal channels) but never thought to use a gun. I was taught responsibility about weapons.
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                    • #535
                      Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                      Originally posted by walrus View Post
                      90% of the kids I went high school with had access.

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                      And how many shot up a school? This is my point.
                      Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                      Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                      • #536
                        Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                        Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                        And how many shot up a school? This is my point.
                        They brought them to school during hunting season. A lot of us carried jack knifes every day

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                        • #537
                          Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                          Originally posted by walrus View Post
                          They brought them to school during hunting season. A lot of us carried jack knifes every day

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                          And they didn't use them in an illegal manner. Again, responsibility.
                          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                          Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                          • #538
                            Originally posted by rufus View Post
                            Cause like I said, that would have made all the difference.


                            Not like not allowing this kid access to dangerous weapons would have, but you know, talking would have been far more effective.
                            If a cheerleader had just taken one for the team and given this loser a bj this all might have been averted.

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                            • #539
                              Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                              "The problem is that people aren't nicer to them," say people who chant "**** your feelings"

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                              • #540
                                Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

                                Apparently society has changed
                                Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                                And they didn't use them in an illegal manner. Again, responsibility.
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