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  • #31
    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

    Originally posted by Jasma View Post
    The sophomore class may not be great, but the freshman class is very good, if they can stay healthy. Because zalewski and haggerty left early, the senior class was not strong. I really don't think Dr. Jackson or her tight circle of advisors care about the fans or wins and losses.
    I too am concerend about the health of several of the class of '18, but there is a lot of talent there. As to the sophs, I think that Reno is the most talnted but has been having trouble making the lineup. Bourbonnais also showed noteworthy ability at times.

    To be picky, Z would have been a junior.
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    • #32
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      Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
      No no no, I'm talking about forms that are quite illegal, especially if you follow acts from the 60's to a tee.
      Whatever
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      • #33
        Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

        Anyone who thinks that the school administration gives a hoot about winning hockey is taking medication. The only people winning means anything to are the boys who come here, us posters, and believe it or not, the coaches. We have as much talent or as little talent as almost any other ECAC team. We just cannot get over the hump and win the games we could and we most certainly do not score the goals that would put games away. We did not get blown out by SLU, and they are a very good team, but we did not score against them. Goalie or no goalie all we needed was a couple first or second period goals in each game and we win.
        This was indeed another long losing season. But I am sure all of us will be back here next year to see if the group of recruits can add to the already very decent nucleus from this past year. This past freshman class was talented and exciting. Add one more class like that and a couple kids who can win face offs and we could have a much better year.
        All of this though predicated on a season where we do not lead the league in penalties while at the same time drawing the fewest by an incredibly wide margin. Special teams and face offs killed us this year and if that gets addressed in some way, honestly believe that a 20+ loss season can be a 20+ win season. But then again, I am always optimistic when the countdown is 203 days to go.
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        • #34
          Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

          Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
          But then again, I am always optimistic when the countdown is 203 days to go.
          Ittakes me a while to get over the disappointment of the past season.

          There is indeed some talent coming in especially Tironese, Wiffen, and Dillon. But each has question marks in my mind. Tironese because of his injury and size, Wiffen because he is posting great numbers as an overage player, and Dillon because I don't know how he will be without a dominant team in front of him.
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          • #35
            Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

            Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
            Anyone who thinks that the school administration gives a hoot about winning hockey is taking medication. The only people winning means anything to are the boys who come here, us posters, and believe it or not, the coaches. We have as much talent or as little talent as almost any other ECAC team. We just cannot get over the hump and win the games we could and we most certainly do not score the goals that would put games away. We did not get blown out by SLU, and they are a very good team, but we did not score against them. Goalie or no goalie all we needed was a couple first or second period goals in each game and we win.
            This was indeed another long losing season. But I am sure all of us will be back here next year to see if the group of recruits can add to the already very decent nucleus from this past year. This past freshman class was talented and exciting. Add one more class like that and a couple kids who can win face offs and we could have a much better year.
            All of this though predicated on a season where we do not lead the league in penalties while at the same time drawing the fewest by an incredibly wide margin. Special teams and face offs killed us this year and if that gets addressed in some way, honestly believe that a 20+ loss season can be a 20+ win season. But then again, I am always optimistic when the countdown is 203 days to go.
            I'm more worried about the sophomore slump, and if any of those players drop off. Remember the hope we had for Pat Cullen after his freshman year, and how much he fell off?

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            • #36
              Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

              Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
              I think Lee will become the full-time AD.
              That would seem to note bode well for coach, judging by McElroy's comments a few months ago and the comparisons he drew to Union hockey

              http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/ne...ning-rpis.html

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              • #37
                Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                Originally posted by vicious View Post
                That would seem to note bode well for coach, judging by McElroy's comments a few months ago and the comparisons he drew to Union hockey

                http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/ne...ning-rpis.html
                From the same article: "An equally big focus is the academic standards and community involvement Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute expects from its more than 500 student athletes, McElroy said." Seth excels in this area.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DrDemento View Post
                  Anyone who thinks that the school administration gives a hoot about winning hockey is taking medication. The only people winning means anything to are the boys who come here, us posters, and believe it or not, the coaches. We have as much talent or as little talent as almost any other ECAC team. We just cannot get over the hump and win the games we could and we most certainly do not score the goals that would put games away. We did not get blown out by SLU, and they are a very good team, but we did not score against them. Goalie or no goalie all we needed was a couple first or second period goals in each game and we win.
                  This was indeed another long losing season. But I am sure all of us will be back here next year to see if the group of recruits can add to the already very decent nucleus from this past year. This past freshman class was talented and exciting. Add one more class like that and a couple kids who can win face offs and we could have a much better year.
                  All of this though predicated on a season where we do not lead the league in penalties while at the same time drawing the fewest by an incredibly wide margin. Special teams and face offs killed us this year and if that gets addressed in some way, honestly believe that a 20+ loss season can be a 20+ win season. But then again, I am always optimistic when the countdown is 203 days to go.
                  COMPLETELY agree Doc. Great post. What the admin cares about is all of the off-ice stuff- in the classroom and community. If a few teams happen to excel, it's icing on the cake in their minds. Not saying I like it, but I sure believe it's fact.
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                  • #39
                    Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                    The crazy thing about that article and the brand "exapnsion" is RPI's brand from the hockey program was bigger and better before Seth arrived, and has dwindled since his arrival, especially if you use Schenectady as a measuring stick.

                    The hockey program has always been a bellwether for the community involvement, starting from the Toys for Tots and BBBS programs. It's great McElroy wants to bring all of the programs up to the level of hockey team. I'm sure he also wants to elevate the hockey team's performance "between the lines" to the others...maybe?
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                    • #40
                      Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                      Originally posted by ServinisScores View Post
                      The crazy thing about that article and the brand "exapnsion" is RPI's brand from the hockey program was bigger and better before Seth arrived, and has dwindled since his arrival, especially if you use Schenectady as a measuring stick.

                      The hockey program has always been a bellwether for the community involvement, starting from the Toys for Tots and BBBS programs. It's great McElroy wants to bring all of the programs up to the level of hockey team. I'm sure he also wants to elevate the hockey team's performance "between the lines" to the others...maybe?
                      "Bringing all programs up" is exactly what I suspected has been happening for the past few years: They're trying to advance football, eventually move the entire school to D-I FCS, and hockey will be left in the dust.

                      And unfortunately, "winning brings ticket sales" doesn't work with this administration because they don't get the ticket sales money. Perhaps the PU and GM should become much more involved in the selection of said staff.

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                      • #41
                        Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                        Originally posted by AspyDad View Post
                        From the same article: "An equally big focus is the academic standards and community involvement Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute expects from its more than 500 student athletes, McElroy said." Seth excels in this area.

                        I agree with you there, but I took McElroy's quotes to mean he will expect results in both areas - wins and academics. The impression I get is that success in only one of these two areas will not meet his expectations.

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                        • #42
                          Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                          "Bringing all programs up" is exactly what I suspected has been happening for the past few years: They're trying to advance football, eventually move the entire school to D-I FCS, and hockey will be left in the dust.
                          This makes no sense to me. Maybe the plan is to follow a Colgate/Holy Cross -Patriot League model of D1 hockey and football? Given that McElroy elevated UA sports to D-1, maybe he would try to do that here if he becomes permanent AD. But how would this in any way leave hockey in the dust?

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                          • #43
                            Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                            Originally posted by vicious View Post
                            This makes no sense to me. Maybe the plan is to follow a Colgate/Holy Cross -Patriot League model of D1 hockey and football? Given that McElroy elevated UA sports to D-1, maybe he would try to do that here if he becomes permanent AD. But how would this in any way leave hockey in the dust?
                            It wouldn't. Just little Flaggy looking for attention again by being his typical as$ clown self.

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                            • #44
                              Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                              Originally posted by vicious View Post
                              This makes no sense to me. Maybe the plan is to follow a Colgate/Holy Cross -Patriot League model of D1 hockey and football? Given that McElroy elevated UA sports to D-1, maybe he would try to do that here if he becomes permanent AD. But how would this in any way leave hockey in the dust?
                              If scholarship money is going towards football and basketball, are they going to have enough left for hockey?

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                              • #45
                                Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                If scholarship money is going towards football and basketball, are they going to have enough left for hockey?
                                No one is this stupid. This is an act.
                                Keep an open mind. Just don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out.

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