New Poll Predictions for 11/15

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

BTW, I bounced Plattsburgh out of my poll this week. Reputation does not sustain them a vote with the record they have with the losses they have.

As well you should have. If I had a vote, I'd have them at 14-15 at best, and that's pushing it with the results before us. We're past the point where "reputation" should even be a factor for Plattsburgh. But, much like Middlebury when they're having a down time, I expect to see Plattsburgh's name when the polls are out.

[LakerEagleLover]

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This is the way it used to be done -- preseason poll and then wait about a month.

But like someone else said -- what would we have to talk about? And seriously, that's why the polls come out earlier now -- it brings publicity (and hits) to USCHO.

As far as teams not playing, I can tell you my attitude when I place my vote -- unless everyone else is tanking the season, if you haven't played a game, I tend to be very rough on you in the polls. I did vote Norwich No. 1 in my preseason poll, but that's obvious. I've been voting Oswego number 1 (and not because I'm the SUNYAC correspondent; I would do the same for any other team under the same circumstances) the past two weeks because it doesn't matter to me whether you are the defending national champions at this point. If you are not actually DEFENDING that title till the second month of everyone else season (and I don't give a crap what the reason is), and someone else is running the table against good competition, then I'm not voting you No. 1. Now, if Norwich goes out and wins the Primelink, I'll bounce them right back up to No. 1, because now you have proven to me that you are just as good as the national championship team the year before, and thus there is no reason at the time to think someone else is above you.

BTW, I bounced Plattsburgh out of my poll this week. Reputation does not sustain them a vote with the record they have with the losses they have.

Thomas Paine would admire your integrity, scribe.

[Russell Jaslow]

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It seems that the polls are there just to provide discussion on the teams. The polls sometimes don't even matter at the end of the season either when the selection committee starts deciding on who will go to the big dance or not. I know it has been said a million times but DIII should adapt DI system for determining the polls. So untill the tourney is set, all is a mute point.
Oswego '89

Huh?

This post make no sense at all. The USCHO polls, whether D1 or D3, they are both done using the exact same method, have nothing to do with selecting playoff teams.

The NCAA method of selecting playoff teams is very similar between D1 or D3. So, I have no idea what you saying.

[vcxc3200]

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I think despite splitting the weekend, utica's going to end up with more votes. although they did not come away victorious, they played a great game against oswego with 13 freshmen on the team.

I'm going to get crucified for this but i did not like the series of late hits oswego got away with.... the van boxmeer hit was just plain dirty. they say they're going to start calling this stuff....


It should be a real interesting game in oswego in a few weeks.

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

I think despite splitting the weekend, utica's going to end up with more votes. although they did not come away victorious, they played a great game against oswego with 13 freshmen on the team.

I'm going to get crucified for this but i did not like the series of late hits oswego got away with.... the van boxmeer hit was just plain dirty. they say they're going to start calling this stuff....


It should be a real interesting game in oswego in a few weeks.

I may have to make sure I get to this game now.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

USCHO.com Division III Men's Poll
Minneapolis, Minn./November 15, 2010

   Team       (First Place)         Record   Pts  Last Week
 1 Norwich             (14)          0-0-0   293     1
 2 Oswego              ( 5)          8-0-0   285     2
 3 St. Norbert         ( 1)          5-1-0   262     3
 4 Middlebury                        0-0-0   228     4
 5 Manhattanville                    3-1-0   216     5
 6 Bowdoin                           0-0-0   180     7
 7 Gustavus Adolphus                 4-1-1   171     9
 8 Hamline                           3-1-0   128    11
 9 Wisconsin-Stevens Point           4-3-0    96    10
10 Adrian                            3-1-0    88    12
11 Elmira                            3-3-1    81     6
12 Williams                          0-0-0    72    13
13 Plattsburgh                       2-3-0    69     8
14 Geneseo                           4-1-2    46    NR
15 Milwaukee School of Engineering   6-0-0    45    NR

Others Receiving Votes: Amherst 40, Babson 18, 
Wisconsin-River Falls 17, Marian 16, Utica 9, 
Wisconsin-Stout 9, St. Thomas 8, St. Scholastica 5, 
Lawrence 4, Salem State 4, New England College 3, 
Nichols 3, Wisconsin-Eau Claire 2, Curry 1, 
Morrisville 1

The USCHO.com Poll is compiled weekly and consists of 20 voters, including 15 coaches of Division III programs and five men's hockey writers. USCHO.com provides in-depth coverage of college hockey.

There is your poll for the week.

Point moves up a spot after losing twice? Granted they didn't get blown out but still...and Oswego loses a first place vote?

[XYZ]

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There. Now it's comprehensible:

USCHO.com Division III Men's Poll
Minneapolis, Minn./November 15, 2010

   Team       (First Place)         Record   Pts  Last Week
 1 Norwich             (14)          0-0-0   293     1
 2 Oswego              ( 5)          8-0-0   285     2
 3 St. Norbert         ( 1)          5-1-0   262     3
 4 Middlebury                        0-0-0   228     4
 5 Manhattanville                    3-1-0   216     5
 6 Bowdoin                           0-0-0   180     7
 7 Gustavus Adolphus                 4-1-1   171     9
 8 Hamline                           3-1-0   128    11
 9 Wisconsin-Stevens Point           4-3-0    96    10
10 Adrian                            3-1-0    88    12
11 Elmira                            3-3-1    81     6
12 Williams                          0-0-0    72    13
13 Plattsburgh                       2-3-0    69     8
14 Geneseo                           4-1-2    46    NR
15 Milwaukee School of Engineering   6-0-0    45    NR

Others Receiving Votes: Amherst 40, Babson 18,
Wisconsin-River Falls 17, Marian 16, Utica 9,
Wisconsin-Stout 9, St. Thomas 8, St. Scholastica 5,
Lawrence 4, Salem State 4, New England College 3,
Nichols 3, Wisconsin-Eau Claire 2, Curry 1,
Morrisville 1

[NUProf]

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Granted they didn't get blown out but still...and Oswego loses a first place vote?

It's because Norwich was so impressive in the Maroon and Gold Game

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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It's because Norwich was so impressive in the Maroon and Gold Game

They didn't lose a first place vote to Norwich. They lost it to St. Norbert.

[NorthernLite]

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I find it a odd to see teams that haven't played a shift move up or down from week to week...but
Has any team with a losing record ever been ranked ...... or is this a first ?

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
13 Plattsburgh 2-3-0 69 8

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: New Poll Predictions for 11/15

I find it a odd to see teams that haven't played a shift move up or down from week to week...but
Has any team with a losing record ever been ranked ...... or is this a first ?

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
13 Plattsburgh 2-3-0 69 8

I suspect this early in the season, it has happened before. If Norwich was under .500 after the Primelink because they lost two games in the Primelink, I would probably still rank them somewhere.

As to St. Norbert taking a first place vote from Oswego, well they did beat Stevens Point, a renked team, twice.

[neumyer]

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I notice that that UNE lost their votes awarded to them in error last week by voters that did not know the difference between UNE and NEC.

[NUProf]

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I notice that that UNE lost their votes awarded to them in error last week by voters that did not know the difference between UNE and NEC.

If that's the reason they got votes, it does raise all kinds of credibility questions. Human polls are so subject to strange variables.

[ThatGuy_11]

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ok. Oswego lost a vote to St. Norbert..and we're undefeated? -______________- lame.

[elbojpb]

Where's Neumann!

Interesting that Neumann doesn't get a sniff 18 months removed from their National Championship. I would've thunk that at least some of the voters would have awarded them reputation votes!? or are they solely reserved for CCCP teams?