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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    FWIW, as someone who grew up in the south, I'd never even heard of it, and I could have probably listed at least 20 other shipwrecks. I can't say for sure, but this board may very well be the first place I heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
    You must not have been within hearing distance of a radio between 1976 and 1981. Those of us who were envied the crew.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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    51 people? That's it? I thought it was like a thousand. How many people do you lose on a normal cruise? 30? 40?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    You must not have been within hearing distance of a radio between 1976 and 1981. Those of us who were envied the crew.
    Mercifully, I was only 9 in 1981, and even if Radio Disney had existed, I doubt that song would have been too prominent in their rotation.

    Point being, for much of the country, the wreck was an event localized in both time and place - not really a "Kennedy" or "Challenger" touchstone moment. By the time I was old enough to have heard about it, nobody was talking about it.

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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Mercifully, I was only 9 in 1981, and even if Radio Disney had existed, I doubt that song would have been too prominent in their rotation.

    Point being, for much of the country, the wreck was an event localized in both time and place - not really a "Kennedy" or "Challenger" touchstone moment. By the time I was old enough to have heard about it, nobody was talking about it.
    I don't think anybody outside of the UP ever knew about it, let alone talked about it, until the song came out. In all honesty I had no idea the song was based on a real event for a long time. But the song itself was so ubiquitous on AM soft rock that is became something of a flagship joke, like Stairway was for FM concept rock.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    Stating the obvious here, but Gordon Lightfoot had a lot to do with the Edmund Fitzgerald achieving country-wide fame. Without the song, most people, even in the GL region, would have no memory of it.
    Yeah. I think its regional. But it runs very deep in the area for some reason. It was something that came up almost every time we went up north.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Tommy Mischke has one of the best bits in radio history when it comes to the Fitzgerald. So great.

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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    Yeah. I think its regional. But it runs very deep in the area for some reason. It was something that came up almost every time we went up north.
    Very regional, the more I think about and see other people's opinions on this more I see that.
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    Stating the obvious here, but Gordon Lightfoot had a lot to do with the Edmund Fitzgerald achieving country-wide fame. Without the song, most people, even in the GL region, would have no memory of it.
    Absolutely.

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    Ah, got it. Based on the wording I was thinking you meant it was #2 in terms of wrecks that have occurred in the region, as opposed to #2 overall in the minds of people in the region.
    Yep, it wasn't very good wording on my part.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Point being, for much of the country, the wreck was an event localized in both time and place - not really a "Kennedy" or "Challenger" touchstone moment. By the time I was old enough to have heard about it, nobody was talking about it.
    Well, I was living in MN in 1981, and it was a touchstone moment for me. Not at the level of the President being shot or the September 11th attacks. But I'm glad you mentioned the Challenger tragedy; that was a comparable moment from my perspective.

    Having now lived in Ohio for decades, I've met a good number of life-long Ohioans who experienced it as a touchstone moment as well. Admittedly those people tend to be from the northern part of the state, near Lake Erie.

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    I don't think anybody outside of the UP ever knew about it, let alone talked about it, until the song came out. In all honesty I had no idea the song was based on a real event for a long time...
    Not doubting your honest perception, but the UP-only thing just isn't true. See above.

    And just in case: Neil Young's "Let's Roll" was also based on a real event. Of course that song didn't have quite the same staying power...

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    Not doubting your honest perception, but the UP-only thing just isn't true. See above.
    I'm including MN in my definition of the UP.

    Seriously -- all you White Walkers up there -- UP, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, the North Country -- it's all just identical shooting locations for Fargo to me.

    Any place that makes Ithaca look warm is terrifying to contemplate.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I'm including MN in my definition of the UP.

    Seriously -- all you White Walkers up there -- UP, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, the North Country -- it's all just identical shooting locations for Fargo to me.

    Any place that makes Ithaca look warm is terrifying to contemplate.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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    I'm including MN in my definition of the UP.

    Seriously -- all you White Walkers up there -- UP, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, the North Country -- it's all just identical shooting locations for Fargo to me.

    Any place that makes Ithaca look warm is terrifying to contemplate.
    My daughter, born in Nodak and raised in Wisconsin, made an early-April visit to Ithaca on a school tour several years ago. It was wintry, and I don't know how people keep from killing themselves on that hill when it freezes up. The jungles of Manhattan seemed safer.

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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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    My daughter, born in Nodak and raised in Wisconsin, made an early-April visit to Ithaca on a school tour several years ago. It was wintry, and I don't know how people keep from killing themselves on that hill when it freezes up.
    They put ropes out on Libe slope after ice storms. Nabokov liked Ithaca because "it reminds me of home." He was from Sibersky, Russia which looks like this. In May.
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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

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    They put ropes out on Libe slope after ice storms. Nabokov liked Ithaca because "it reminds me of home." He was from Sibersky, Russia which looks like this. In May.
    What's with the open water? Can't play pond hockey on that. Climate must be too mild.

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    Re: Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    Too lazy to play the song today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissThundercat View Post
    Too lazy to play the song today.
    I mean, it's not even Gordon's best song...

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