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    Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

    Now that we're inching our way to August, any thoughts on a top 16 for 2010-2011 ? Some teams are returning most of their players while some have lost some players to the pros and graduation.
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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

    I think that Bentley will be in the mix this year.

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    North Dakota, Michigan , Miami and BC have gotta be the top four in any order, IMO. the order listed here is fine by me. I never want to be preseason #1 from HE i think Maine is there and BU probably too as well as UVM. There, that's seven then fill in with..............

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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

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    I think that Bentley will be in the mix this year.
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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by BCeagle View Post
    Now that we're inching our way to August, any thoughts on a top 16 for 2010-2011 ? Some teams are returning most of their players while some have lost some players to the pros and graduation.
    I think its too early for a top 16. I think its hard enough doing a top 5. If I was picking the top five:

    1.) Boston College
    2.) North Dakota
    3.) Miami of Ohio
    4.) Michigan
    5.) St. Cloud

    Beyond that, who knows.

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    I haven't followed the national scene this off-season, but in the WCHA I think UND is going to be hard to beat - I'd expect them to be in the top 5 somewhere. UMD and SCSU should also both have very strong teams, and I'd expect both to be somewhere in the top 10. CC and DU both have question marks but enough returning players that I think they'll be somewhere in the 10-20 range. I don't know enough about Bemidji and UNO to make a well supported guess, but I do think both have a good shot at finishing in the top half of the league, which should mean that they'll either be in the rankings or at least getting votes.
    I think UMD won the lottery with their cluster (UW, MTU, MN) and will do very well in the league standings. That won't impact the pre-season standings, but I do think it will help them remain high in the rankings as the year progresses. The UND/SCSU/UNO/BSU cluster looks really tough. Welcome to the WCHA, UNO and BSU!

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    I agree with that Top 4 (BC-ND-Miami-Michigan). I think Maine will sneak into the top 10 this year, and I think Notre Dame is poised to be at least an NCAA tournament team again... they underachieved badly last year.

    I suspect that just like last year, western teams will dominate the top 10-12 spots as Hockey East won't have much depth. But I also believe that BC will prove to be the best team yet again, as they return so many vital pieces of last year's team; the big question is whether or not they can replace the senior leadership of the captains who graduated.
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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

    1. Boston College
    2. North Dakota
    3. St. Cloud
    4. Miami
    5. Maine
    6. Michigan
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    and I think Notre Dame is poised to be at least an NCAA tournament team again... they underachieved badly last year.
    Maybe... if they can stay out of jail.

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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

    I think I know the teams I'd put in the top 16. Just not sure about the order. Going by league (teams within leagues aren't ranked, they're alphabetical):

    HE
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    BU
    Maine
    UNH

    ECAC
    RPI
    Yale

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    Miami
    Michigan
    MSU

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    Minnesota
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    Wisconsin
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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Federal League View Post
    I think I know the teams I'd put in the top 16. Just not sure about the order. Going by league (teams within leagues aren't ranked, they're alphabetical):

    WCHA
    Denver
    Minnesota
    UMD
    UND
    St. Cloud
    Wisconsin


    Holy cow - you missed the WCHA by a mile, IMHO. Minnesota may end up there at the end, but based on their results last year I think it's a stretch to put them in the top 16 in the pre-season. And have you seen how many losses UW has had this off-season? They only return one of their top 8 scorers, and only 4 of their top 14. They lost 122 of their 163 goals from last year. They also lost 8 of their regular forwards and 3 of their top 6 defensemen. They have a lot of talent coming in, but holy crap they lost almost their whole team!

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    Holy cow - you missed the WCHA by a mile, IMHO. Minnesota may end up there at the end, but based on their results last year I think it's a stretch to put them in the top 16 in the pre-season. And have you seen how many losses UW has had this off-season? They only return one of their top 8 scorers, and only 4 of their top 14. They lost 122 of their 163 goals from last year. They also lost 8 of their regular forwards and 3 of their top 6 defensemen. They have a lot of talent coming in, but holy crap they lost almost their whole team!
    Yeah, I could take out Wisconsin and put Notre Dame in there. I do think Minnesota will be there, though.
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    After BC does it matter? They are by far the best team once again.
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    After BC does it matter? They are by far the best team once again.
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    Holy cow - you missed the WCHA by a mile, IMHO. Minnesota may end up there at the end, but based on their results last year I think it's a stretch to put them in the top 16 in the pre-season. And have you seen how many losses UW has had this off-season? They only return one of their top 8 scorers, and only 4 of their top 14. They lost 122 of their 163 goals from last year. They also lost 8 of their regular forwards and 3 of their top 6 defensemen. They have a lot of talent coming in, but holy crap they lost almost their whole team!
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    Holy cow - you missed the WCHA by a mile, IMHO. Minnesota may end up there at the end, but based on their results last year I think it's a stretch to put them in the top 16 in the pre-season. And have you seen how many losses UW has had this off-season? They only return one of their top 8 scorers, and only 4 of their top 14. They lost 122 of their 163 goals from last year. They also lost 8 of their regular forwards and 3 of their top 6 defensemen. They have a lot of talent coming in, but holy crap they lost almost their whole team!
    It looks to me like a reputation rating to me rather than anything based upon watching the WCHA play.

    No offense to Federal League, but he's a Boston hockey fan. There's not a lot of chances to watch WCHA hockey on the east coast.

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    Re: Preseason Poll: 2010-2011

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    I haven't followed the national scene this off-season, but in the WCHA I think UND is going to be hard to beat - I'd expect them to be in the top 5 somewhere. UMD and SCSU should also both have very strong teams, and I'd expect both to be somewhere in the top 10. CC and DU both have question marks but enough returning players that I think they'll be somewhere in the 10-20 range. I don't know enough about Bemidji and UNO to make a well supported guess, but I do think both have a good shot at finishing in the top half of the league, which should mean that they'll either be in the rankings or at least getting votes.
    I think UMD won the lottery with their cluster (UW, MTU, MN) and will do very well in the league standings. That won't impact the pre-season standings, but I do think it will help them remain high in the rankings as the year progresses. The UND/SCSU/UNO/BSU cluster looks really tough. Welcome to the WCHA, UNO and BSU!
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    Yeah, I could take out Wisconsin and put Notre Dame in there. I do think Minnesota will be there, though.
    I do not think so. Minnesota should be markedly improved from last year (assuming no surprise departures before the season starts), but not preseason top 16 material.

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    Minnesota is hypothetically too high.

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    Hard to believe that the bolded statement above is actually correct.



    I do not think so. Minnesota should be markedly improved from last year (assuming no surprise departures before the season starts), but not preseason top 16 material.
    So who do you WCHAers think will make the top 16 from your conference? If you list any fewer than 5 or 6 teams, you're sandbagging. HE will again not be very strong, and ECAC will be lucky to get two in the top 16.
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