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    Best coaches of all time.

    Where is Jerry York on the list? Certainly the best coach currently coaching. 3 titles(more than likely anyway )9 years, in the frozen four more times than not since 1998. Consistently brings in great players, rarely a peep about infractions or poor students. Play hard, play fast and win. Unreal. Congrats to BC and their fans(even if they have their share of dopes )
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    His team sure is putting on a show.....very impressive. Not only fast, but very hard working. Traits of the Maine teams of old. I do want to see Wisco get shutout.
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    If you measure by NCAA titles, he's getting there,

    Vic Heyliger of Michigan had six NCAA titles between 1944 and 1957, Murray Armstrong of Denver had 5 titles between 1956 and 1969. York now has four overall (3 at BC and 1 at BG) which puts him in third place all time, ahead of coaches such as Herb Brooks, Gino Gasparini, Jack Parker, Bob Johnson and John MacInnes (who all had 3 crowns).
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    Parker and York are clearly the two best active coaches. These two guys know how to mold disciplined teams. Discipline is what gets the hardware that really matters in the second week of April.
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    I can certainly put York way up on the list. Wins with more than one team, 4 titles overall, doing it in an era where it is harder to win, brought the first NCAA win to a less traditional team (BGSU in '84), great regular seasons, in the NCAAs seemingly every year. He can certainly make a claim to being one of the best, and you'll get no argument from me if you want to crown him #1.

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    In my opinion Jerry York is the greatest coach in college hockey history. I love Ron Mason for what he did at MSU but York's teams compete for titles year in and year out. His teams rarely do not meet their expectations, and that is the measure of good coaching I think.

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    Ned Harkness has to be in the discussion: 4 national titles at 2 different schools, 3 in hockey and 1 in lacrosse (RPI, 1952)! As a Cornellian, I have to think that his Cornell lacrosse teams (35-1 in his three seasons as coach) would have won a title or two if there had been a tournament (instead of a poll rife with southern snobbery).

    Every school he touched (RPI, Cornell, Union) became a contender virtually overnight.
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    In my opinion there are two answers to this question...college hockey has changed so much over the last 40 years. I have a hard time comparing programs and coaches and success today compared to back then. I don't think it is completely appropriate to compare 2000's college hockey with 1960's or earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnessMan View Post
    Parker and York are clearly the two best active coaches. These two guys know how to mold disciplined teams. Discipline is what gets the hardware that really matters in the second week of April.
    One of those coaches is loved by his players and the other hated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STATEdude3 View Post
    In my opinion there are two answers to this question...college hockey has changed so much over the last 40 years. I have a hard time comparing programs and coaches and success today compared to back then. I don't think it is completely appropriate to compare 2000's college hockey with 1960's or earlier.
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    York is the best coach of all-time, not even close. To score 7 on the best defense in the country and come back and shut out the nations best offense is coaching brilliance. No one is better than this guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STATEdude3 View Post
    In my opinion there are two answers to this question...college hockey has changed so much over the last 40 years. I have a hard time comparing programs and coaches and success today compared to back then. I don't think it is completely appropriate to compare 2000's college hockey with 1960's or earlier.
    The game may have changed, but championships are just hard to win in any era of the 50-60 years. There were less teams back then, but the talent levels then were pretty concentrated on top schools then, as there was less dilution. If you won it back then, you had to beat good teams to win, then as now.

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    Re: Best coaches of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by STATEdude3 View Post
    In my opinion Jerry York is the greatest coach in college hockey history.
    I would think Herb Brooks would at the very least be in the conversation.

    Jerry York-- 4 titles in 37 years
    Herb Brooks -- 3 titles in 7 years. 8 if you count the 1 season with SCSU.

    Both are great coaches. But it's really hard to say on is better than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOPHER FREAK View Post
    I would think Herb Brooks would at the very least be in the conversation.

    Jerry York-- 4 titles in 37 years
    Herb Brooks -- 3 titles in 7 years. 8 if you count the 1 season with SCSU.

    Both are great coaches. But it's really hard to say on is better than the other.
    Herb has to be right there.. The whole 1980 thing(I know not in college).. Coaching played kinda of a big role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion Man View Post
    York is the best coach of all-time, not even close. To score 7 on the best defense in the country and come back and shut out the nations best offense is coaching brilliance. No one is better than this guy.
    How can you say it's not even close all time? York has won less NCAA titles than two other coaches! Other coaches (Heyliger and Armstrong) have built dynasties that dominated decades. and while York may be the best coach currently, and the probably best in the last 20 years, other coaches have achieved more in the last 60 years. I think York is an amazing coach, and he's entering some elite company, but he's not the best coach of all time yet.

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    Re: Best coaches of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onion Man View Post
    York is the best coach of all-time, not even close. To score 7 on the best defense in the country and come back and shut out the nations best offense is coaching brilliance. No one is better than this guy.
    Well, I guess we will just ignore facts and statistics and take your word for it.

    Seriously, though. You are an idiot. You are basing him being the "best coach of all time, not even close" on two games.

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    York is good, but I'll have to go with the Wooger. Wooger could coach hockey AND be hilarious while teaming up in the TV booth with a guy wearing a ridiculous hat on his head. I just don't see York being quite as versatile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puck Swami View Post
    The game may have changed, but championships are just hard to win in any era of the 50-60 years. There were less teams back then, but the talent levels then were pretty concentrated on top schools then, as there was less dilution. If you won it back then, you had to beat good teams to win, then as now.
    I do agree that a championship is a championship. However what it takes to attain a championship is sometimes different based on the evolution of the game. I was not around 40 years ago--I'm only 25 years old. But as I look at records, and see old film and really try to compare the current game with the old game it just doesn't flow well for me.

    I think back in the day there was a definitive line between the good teams and the bad teams. There were fewer teams but therefore a less poluted talent base, however it also meant there were fewer teams vying for the title.

    I am not saying this to disqualify any coach. I do not have enough knowledge to openly call for a particular coach from anytime before the 1980's. But as far as I'm concerned Jerry York is as good as it gets. Anyone that can lead a non-perennial hockey power to a championship (Bowling Green) and then take his system to a big school and make it work there, deserves my praises.
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    How can you say it's not even close all time? York has won less NCAA titles than two other coaches! Other coaches (Heyliger and Armstrong) have built dynasties that dominated decades. and while York may be the best coach currently, and the probably best in the last 20 years, other coaches have achieved more in the last 60 years. I think York is an amazing coach, and he's entering some elite company, but he's not the best coach of all time yet.
    I dont think anyone game plans better than this guy. His results are amazing and among contemporaries, he's in a class by himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOPHER FREAK View Post
    I would think Herb Brooks would at the very least be in the conversation.

    Jerry York-- 4 titles in 37 years
    Herb Brooks -- 3 titles in 7 years. 8 if you count the 1 season with SCSU.

    Both are great coaches. But it's really hard to say on is better than the other.
    Nice job trying to skew the facts for your arguement.

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    Herb is certainly up there however.
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