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    RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

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     # Name                 Ps commitm. Team (League)                    Year  DOB      Ht    Wt  Hometown          NZ *s
    16 Alexander Babich     LW 02/16/19 Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)   2022  03/13/03 5'11" 170 Chicago, IL       3.25 x
     8 John Beaton *        LW 11/26/18 Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)       2020  10/31/00 6'01" 183 Stittsville, ON   3.50 x
    43 Jack Brackett #      LW 03/08/18 Powell River Kings (BCHL)        2020  12/31/00 5'10" 175 Manassas, VA      3.50 x
    16 Finn Brown           RW 10/07/19 St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)      2021  06/06/02 6'04" 188 Toronto, ON       3.75 St Sk To GS
     2 Dylan Davies #*      LD 10/10/18 Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL)      2020  02/09/01 6'02" 188 Traverse City, MI 3.75 St Aw Vi
    10 Eric Fawkes           C 10/17/18 Winkler Flyers (MJHL)            2020  03/13/01 6'03" 185 Winnipeg, MB      3.50 x
    27 Jake Gagnon          RW 12/19/19 Wellington Dukes (OJHL)          2020  11/04/99 5'10" 170 Pointe Claire, QU x.xx x
    18 Max Itagaki          RW 09/23/18 Janesville Jets (NAHL)           2021  06/18/02 5'07" 160 Glenview, IL      3.50 Sp SH Aw Sk
    15 Reid Leibold          C 09/08/17 Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)      2020  10/23/01 5'10" 175 Ashburn VA        3.75 Sp SH
     6 Hunter McDonald      LD 11/27/18 Rochester Jr. Monarchs (NCDC)    2021  05/11/02 6'03" 180 Fairport, NY      3.50 x
    22 James McIsaac #    RW/C 10/23/18 Brooks Bandits (AJHL)            2020  04/29/99 5'11" 170 Winnipeg, MB      3.50 Sp To
    31 Brett Miller #*       G 11/05/18 Austin Bruins (NAHL)             2020  04/26/99 6'01" 166 Northville, MI    3.25 x
    49 Payton Robinson      RD 10/21/19 Burlington Cougars (OJHL)        2022  04/30/03 6'02" 185 Mississauga, ON   3.50 x
    28 Lauri Sertti         LD xx/xx/19 Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)            2020  07/11/99 6'01" 192 Espoo, Finland    3.75 SH Aw Vi Sk
    30 Jack Watson           G 12/24/19 Coquitlam Express (BCHL)         2021  03/14/00 6'03" 195 Toronto, ON       3.25 x
    
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    36 Sara Bayne #          F 09/18/19 HoneyBaked 19U (HPHL)            2020  04/23/02 5'06" 135 Ypsilanti, MI     3.00
     3 Sophie Helgeson       D 04/30/19 Roseau High School               2021  03/10/03 5'06" 125 Roseau MN         4.00
     4                                  Minnesota Northern Starzz
    27 Aliya Jomha           F 02/07/19 Northern Alb. Xtreme Prep(CSSHL) 2020  09/27/02 5'06" 155 Edmonton, AB      3.25
     6 Sophia Jones          D 05/02/19 Connecticut Polar Bears 16U      2022  09/23/03 5'03" 135 Westfield, MA     3.50
     6                                  Williston Northampton School
    10 Ellie Kaiser #        C 11/28/17 Chicago Mission 19U              2020  01/19/02 5'08" 125 Westmont, IL      3.25
     3 Taylor Larsen         D 09/14/18 Mississauga Hurricanes (PWHL)    2020  04/23/02 5'07" 145 Bolton, ON        3.25
    13 Audrey McCutcheon     F 03/04/19 Stanstead College                2021  02/22/03 5'04" 135 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, QC 3.50
     2 Michelle Nutescu     LD 12/07/18 Shattuck-St. Mary's Prep         2021  11/19/02 5'07" 150 Northfield, IL    3.50
    24 Madisyn Papineau      F 05/17/18 Oakville Hornets (PWHL)          2020  03/29/02 5'07" 138 Sudbury, ON       3.50
    10 Nyah Philip #         F 10/23/19 Etobicoke Jr. Dolphins (PWHL)    2020  11/18/02 5'04" 153 Mississauga, ON   3.50
    21 Asiah Taylor-Walters LW 11/25/17 Waterloo Rangers (PWHL)          2020  08/21/02 5'06" 150 Toronto, ON       3.25
    
    * In the RPI directory
    # Known to have signed National Letter of Intent
    The years the men's recruits are listed as committed for are not necessarily accurate.
    The dates on which some of the women are listed as committing on may be considerably after the actual dates.
    I am assuming that Neutral Zone regards their Star ratings as public because they often tweet them with committals.
    
    STRENGTHS according to Neutral Zone (NZ doesn't include them for women):
    Aw=Awareness/IQ, Ch= Character/Leadership, GS=Goal Scoring Ability, Sk=Skating, Sp=Speed, SH=Stick Handling Skill, 
    St-Strength, To=Toughness, Vi=Vision/Passing

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

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     # Name                 Ps Team (League)                       Gm- G- A-  P- PM Next Gm
    16 Alexander Babich     LW Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)      10- 4- 2-  6- 12 01/04/20
                               Chicago Mission 16U (non-league)     6- 1- 2-  3-  0 01/11/20 missing games
                               total                               16- 5- 4-  9-  2
     8 John Beaton          LW Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)          25-10- 5- 15- 10 12/31/19
    43 Jack Brackett        LW Powell River Kings (BCHL)           29- 8-13- 21- 26 12/30/19 
    16 Finn Brown           RW St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)         34-21-17- 38- 16 12/31/19
                               OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 1-  1-  0
                               CJHL Prospects Game                  0- 0- 0-  0-  0 01/14/20
    19 Dylan Davies         LD Omaha Lancers (USHL)                11- 0- 0-  0-  2 traded
     2                         Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL)          9- 0- 0-  0-  2 12/31/19
                               total                               20- 0- 0-  0-  4 
    13 Eric Fawkes           C Minnesota Wilderness (NAHL)         20- 3- 3-  6-  4 no longer on team
    10                         Winkler Flyers (MJHL)                5- 1- 1-  2-  4 01/03/20
                               total                               25- 4- 4-  8-  8
    27 Jake Gagnon          RW Wellington Dukes (OJHL)             36-27-25- 52- 26 01/03/20
    18 Max Itagaki          RW Janesville Jets (NAHL)              21- 1- 3-  4-  6 01/10/20
    15 Reid Leibold          C Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)         32- 4- 5-  9-  6 01/03/20
     6 Hunter McDonald      LD Rochester Jr. Monarchs (NCDC)       14- 2- 0-  2- 51 01/03/20 
    22 James McIsaac      C/RW Brooks Bandits (AJHL)               29-11-19- 30- 49 12/30/19 
    31 Brett Miller          G Austin Bruins (NAHL)            15- 8- 5-0-2.56-.913 01/03/20
    49 Payton Robinson      RD Burlington Cougars (OJHL)           31- 2- 7-  9- 12 01/03/20
                               OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 0-  0-  0
    28 Lauri Sertti         LD Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)               30- 5-10- 15- 41 12/31/19
    30 Jack Watson           G Coquitlam Express (NCHL)         7- 2- 0-0-2.46-.898 01/03/20
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 12-31-2019 at 01:17 PM. Reason: Brown's stats fixed

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    Monday’s games

    Brackett (who is suspended) https://bchl.ca/stats/game-summary/9505
    McIsaac https://admin.esportsdesk.com/league...5527&link=AJHL

    I will post the summaries whenever.
    Change https to http for any of the following: Brown, Gagnon, Itagaki, Leibold, Miller, Robinson, and Sertti

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    On Monday, the Brooks Bandits defeated the Canmore Eagles 8-2. James McIsaac had an assist. https://admin.esportsdesk.com/league...5527&link=AJHL

    McIsaac's line is now 39-11-20-31-49.
    This is the game that Hab said he would go to. As he expected, Brooks dominated the game with a 43-18 SOG advantage.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    On Monday, the Powell River Kings defeated the Nanaimo Clippers 1-0. Jack Brackett served the first of his two-game suspension. https://bchl.ca/stats/game-summary/9505

    Brackett's line is now 29-8-13-21-26.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

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     # Name                 Ps Team (League)                       Gm- G- A-  P- PM Next Gm
    16 Alexander Babich     LW Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)      10- 4- 2-  6- 12 01/04/20
                               Chicago Mission 16U (non-league)     6- 1- 2-  3-  0 01/11/20 missing games
                               total                               16- 5- 4-  9-  2
     8 John Beaton          LW Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)          25-10- 5- 15- 10 12/31/19
    43 Jack Brackett        LW Powell River Kings (BCHL)           29- 8-13- 21- 26 12/31/19
    16 Finn Brown           RW St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)         34-21-17- 38- 16 12/31/19
                               OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 1-  1-  0
                               CJHL Prospects Game                  0- 0- 0-  0-  0 01/14/20
    19 Dylan Davies         LD Omaha Lancers (USHL)                11- 0- 0-  0-  2 traded
     2                         Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL)          9- 0- 0-  0-  2 12/31/19
                               total                               20- 0- 0-  0-  4 
    13 Eric Fawkes           C Minnesota Wilderness (NAHL)         20- 3- 3-  6-  4 no longer on team
    10                         Winkler Flyers (MJHL)                5- 1- 1-  2-  4 01/03/20
                               total                               25- 4- 4-  8-  8
    27 Jake Gagnon          RW Wellington Dukes (OJHL)             36-27-25- 52- 26 01/03/20
    18 Max Itagaki          RW Janesville Jets (NAHL)              21- 1- 3-  4-  6 01/10/20
    15 Reid Leibold          C Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)         32- 4- 5-  9-  6 01/03/20
     6 Hunter McDonald      LD Rochester Jr. Monarchs (NCDC)       14- 2- 0-  2- 51 01/03/20 
    22 James McIsaac      C/RW Brooks Bandits (AJHL)               30-11-20- 31- 49 01/03/20
    31 Brett Miller          G Austin Bruins (NAHL)            15- 8- 5-0-2.56-.913 01/03/20
    49 Payton Robinson      RD Burlington Cougars (OJHL)           31- 2- 7-  9- 12 01/03/20
                               OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 0-  0-  0
    28 Lauri Sertti         LD Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)               30- 5-10- 15- 41 12/31/19
    30 Jack Watson           G Coquitlam Express (NCHL)         7- 2- 0-0-2.46-.898 01/03/20
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 12-31-2019 at 01:17 PM. Reason: Brown's stats fixed

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    Tuesday’s games

    Beaton vs Davies https://www.ushl.com/view/#/game-summary/8957
    Brackett (who is suspended) https://bchl.ca/stats/game-summary/9506
    Brown https://ojhl_stats.wttstats.pointstr...gameid=3465411
    Sertti https://nahl.com/game-center/#/game-summary/26052

    I will post the summaries whenever.
    Change https to http for any of the following: Brown, Gagnon, Itagaki, Leibold, Miller, Robinson, and Sertti
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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    On Monday, the Brooks Bandits defeated the Canmore Eagles 8-2. James McIsaac had an assist. https://admin.esportsdesk.com/league...5527&link=AJHL

    McIsaac's line is now 39-11-20-31-49.
    This is the game that Hab said he would go to. As he expected, Brooks dominated the game with a 43-18 SOG advantage.
    I did get to the game, Ralph, and saw just the first two periods. Brooks is, w/o question the best Jr.A team I have seen.

    McIsaac looked pretty good but not spectacular. But then, aside from Brooks' top 5 everyone on the ice looked pretty ordinary. Three of those top five are going to do very well with NCAA teams: Hernandez (Robert Morris); Lee (Merrimack); and Rego (Holy Cross). The other two (Kreiger and Thomas) don't show as having college commitments...I suspect they are going to major junior teams?

    On the positive side, I think it is safe to assume that McIsaac, like every player coming out of the Brooks program, will come to RPI with a solid foundation.
    Last edited by hab; 12-31-2019 at 01:04 PM.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    I missed the following game where Finn Brown scored a goal in a 6-0 win by St. Michael's. https://ojhl_stats.wttstats.pointstr...gameid=3465260

    The stats on this thread will be fixed. I can't edit the previous one.

    The usual: change https to http.
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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    Quote Originally Posted by hab View Post
    I did get to the game, Ralph, and saw just the first two periods. Brooks is, w/o question the best Jr.A team I have seen.

    McIsaac looked pretty good but not spectacular. But then, aside from Brooks' top 5 everyone on the ice looked pretty ordinary. Three of those top five are going to do very well with NCAA teams: Hernandez (Robert Morris); Lee (Merrimack); and Rego (Holy Cross). The other two (Kreiger and Thomas) don't show as having college commitments...I suspect they are going to major junior teams?

    On the positive side, I think it is safe to assume that McIsaac, like every player coming out of the Brooks program, will come to RPI with a solid foundation.
    Thanks for the report.

    None of those commits are going to top programs. Krieger could go major junior. Thomas is already in his overage year. Either could still go D-I. Krieger is an '01, so he has time. I was surprised that it took Hernandez so long to commit. Although he did not play great there, he did play two years with the USNTDP. It is very rare for those players to still be in juniors in their overage year.
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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    On Tuesday, the St. Michael's Buzzers defeated the Mississauga Chargers 4-2. Finn Brown had an assist. https://ojhl_stats.wttstats.pointstre...gameid=3465411

    Brown's line is 35-21-18-39-16.
    change https to http

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    On Tuesday, the Powell River Kings lost to the Nanaimo Clippers 5-4. Jack Brackett did not dress due the second of his two-game suspension. https://bchl.ca/stats/game-summary/9506

    Brackett's line is now 29-8-13-21-26.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    On Tuesday, the Amarillo Bulls lost to the New Mexico Ice Wolves 5-2. Lauri Sertti scored a goal. 5 SOGs. https://nahl.com/game-center/#/game-summary/26052

    Sertti's line is now 31-6-10-16-41.
    change https to http
    It looks like Amarillo had problems in goal.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    On Tuesday, the Youngstown Phantoms lost to the Muskegon Lumberjacks 4-2. John Beaton had no points or penalties. Dylan Davies had a holding penalty. https://www.ushl.com/view/#/game-summary/8957

    Beaton's line is 26-10-5-15-10.
    Davies' Muskegon line is 9-0-0-0-4.
    His total is 21-0-0-0-6.
    FWIW, both players were in the starting lineup.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    I will check for changes in the morning.
    Code:
     # Name                 Ps Team (League)                       Gm- G- A-  P- PM Next Gm
    16 Alexander Babich     LW Chicago Mission 16U (HPHL 16U)      10- 4- 2-  6- 12 01/04/20
                               Chicago Mission 16U (non-league)     6- 1- 2-  3-  0 01/11/20 missing games
                               total                               16- 5- 4-  9-  2
     8 John Beaton          LW Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)          26-10- 5- 15- 10 01/03/20
    43 Jack Brackett        LW Powell River Kings (BCHL)           29- 8-13- 21- 26 01/03/20
    16 Finn Brown           RW St Michael's Buzzers (OJHL)         35-21-18- 39- 16 01/04/20
                               OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 1-  1-  0
                               CJHL Prospects Game                  0- 0- 0-  0-  0 01/14/20
    19 Dylan Davies         LD Omaha Lancers (USHL)                11- 0- 0-  0-  2 traded
     2                         Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL)          9- 0- 0-  0-  4 01/03/20
                               total                               20- 0- 0-  0-  6 
    13 Eric Fawkes           C Minnesota Wilderness (NAHL)         21- 3- 3-  6-  4 no longer on team
    10                         Winkler Flyers (MJHL)                6- 1- 1-  2-  4 01/03/20
                               total                               25- 4- 4-  8-  8
    27 Jake Gagnon          RW Wellington Dukes (OJHL)             36-27-25- 52- 26 01/03/20
    18 Max Itagaki          RW Janesville Jets (NAHL)              21- 1- 3-  4-  6 01/10/20
    15 Reid Leibold          C Maryland Black Bears (NAHL)         32- 4- 5-  9-  6 01/03/20
     6 Hunter McDonald      LD Rochester Jr. Monarchs (NCDC)       14- 2- 0-  2- 51 01/03/20 
    22 James McIsaac      C/RW Brooks Bandits (AJHL)               30-11-20- 31- 49 01/03/20
    31 Brett Miller          G Austin Bruins (NAHL)            15- 8- 5-0-2.56-.913 01/03/20
    49 Payton Robinson      RD Burlington Cougars (OJHL)           31- 2- 7-  9- 12 01/03/20
                               OJHL Prospects Game                  1- 0- 0-  0-  0
    28 Lauri Sertti         LD Amarillo Bulls (NAHL)               31- 6-10- 16- 41 01/03/20
    30 Jack Watson           G Coquitlam Express (NCHL)         7- 2- 0-0-2.46-.898 01/03/20
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 12-31-2019 at 10:43 PM.

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    RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    From previous thread:

    Confused how all of a sudden, Watson gets downgraded half a star (which is a big difference). It doesn't make sense to me, not like he has gotten any worse in my opinion. Is this a bad sign?
    I wouldn’t worry about it. He’s played infrequently behind a guy (Stevenson) that’s dominated the league (#1 GAA approaching 1.5. #2 Save % at 94%). More important, It’s hard to take any scouting service seriously until you see how they do over time. As we’ve seen from our football brethren, some services have become famous for adjusting ratings based on offers. An early season 3 star that gets an Ohio State offer will soon be a 4 or even 5 star. A 3 star whose best offer is UConn or Rutgers will often end up a 2 star. So we may be seeing the “RPI Effect”, in which our hockey recruits are viewed in a more negative light until we become winners again.


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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

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    From previous thread:



    I wouldn’t worry about it. He’s played infrequently behind a guy (Stevenson) that’s dominated the league (#1 GAA approaching 1.5. #2 Save % at 94%). More important, It’s hard to take any scouting service until you see how they do over time. As we’ve seen from our football brethren, some services have become famous for adjusting ratings based on offers. An early season 3 star that gets an Ohio State offer will soon be a 4 or even 5 star. A 3 star whose best offer is UConn or Rutgers will often end up a 2 star. So we may be seeing the “RPI Effect”, in which our hockey recruits are downgraded until we become winners again.


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    I can't remember who, but they have also upgraded at least one recruit immediately after he committed to us. I think that it is mainly that they don't reevaluate frequently. and when a recruit commits they often think about it again. A think that if they thought about Beaton again he would go up from 3.50.

    Recently, they seem to spending most of their effort on their NHL rankings. There probably is more money to be made there than on rankings for college and major junior.

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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    I can't remember who, but they have also upgraded at least one recruit immediately after he committed to us. I think that it is mainly that they don't reevaluate frequently. and when a recruit commits they often think about it again. A think that if they thought about Beaton again he would go up from 3.50.

    Recently, they seem to spending most of their effort on their NHL rankings. There probably is more money to be made there than on rankings for college and major junior.
    I’m curious how they rate Stevenson now versus last year. He’s a year older than Watson and having a tremendous season for the best club in the league. But his stats from his first two years are worse than Watson’s current numbers over far more games.


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    Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2019-20 (Part II)

    Quote Originally Posted by rpi82 View Post
    I’m curious how they rate Stevenson now versus last year. He’s a year older than Watson and having a tremendous season for the best club in the league. But his stats from his first two years are worse than Watson’s current numbers over far more games.


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    He is a 3.00. Clearly, he has never been reevaluated.

    Although that is in line with my previous post that they don't reevaluate players much, it surprises me that in his case they haven't since this year is so much better than the past. Even if some of his improvement is due to the team, he has great numbers for a league that is usually described as being a scorers' league.
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 01-01-2020 at 10:25 PM.

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