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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    On offense, they should be good at TE and WR (other than depth), and I like Mattison. Given that, I think they need to re-up Cousins and Cook, and then figure out how to improve the offensive line.

    On defense, I think the glaring issue is getting better along the defensive line. I trust Zimmer to fix the defensive backs (which could also improve by subtraction), and I think the linebackers are a good group that will continue to get better over the next few seasons.

    Overall, the Vikings should compete for the division title, and will be in the mix for the playoffs. However, as today showed, getting a first round bye will be critical.
    Without significant improvement at O line, Cousins isn't going to take them deep. Not mobile enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    Without significant improvement at O line, Cousins isn't going to take them deep. Not mobile enough.
    Agreed. That's why they need to improve the offensive line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    On offense, they should be good at TE and WR (other than depth), and I like Mattison. Given that, I think they need to re-up Cousins and Cook, and then figure out how to improve the offensive line.

    On defense, I think the glaring issue is getting better along the defensive line. I trust Zimmer to fix the defensive backs (which could also improve by subtraction), and I think the linebackers are a good group that will continue to get better over the next few seasons.

    Overall, the Vikings should compete for the division title, and will be in the mix for the playoffs. However, as today showed, getting a first round bye will be critical.
    Bye won't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Bye won't matter.
    That's why teams with the bye always lose.

    Oh, wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    That's why teams with the bye always lose.

    Oh, wait...
    2009, 1998. Should I go on?

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    2009, 1998. Should I go on?
    2009, Saints were the #1 seed and won the Super Bowl. They beat the Colts, who were also the #1 seed.

    1998, Denver was the #1 seed and won the Super Bowl. They beat the Falcons, who were a #2 seed that received a bye.

    Sure...let's go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    2009, Saints were the #1 seed and won the Super Bowl. They beat the Colts, who were also the #1 seed.

    1998, Denver was the #1 seed and won the Super Bowl. They beat the Falcons, who were a #2 seed that received a bye.

    Sure...let's go on.
    Lol. That response is hilarious.

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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Tannehill boom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Lol. That response is hilarious.
    It was pretty funny how badly your point was destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    It was pretty funny how badly your point was destroyed.
    While that has been the trend for the last 10 years. From 1990 to 2012 it was more like this:

    The last No. 1 seed to win the Super Bowl was the 2009 Saints (NFC).

    The last No. 1 seed in the AFC to win the Super Bowl was the 2003 Patriots.

    No. 1 seeds have won just two of the last 13 Super Bowls. In the 10 seasons prior to that streak, the No. 1 seeds won the Super Bowl seven times.
    https://www.nfl.com/superbowlchamps/seeding

    I fail to see how 10 years is a sure thing. But if you think the Minnesota Vikings are a sure thing with a #1 you get down with your bad self. Almost 60 years of history says otherwise.





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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Gibberish
    In the 44 Super Bowls where teams have been seeded, 10 have been won by teams seeded #3 or worse (34 were a #1 or #2 seed). Of the 88 Super Bowl participants in that time period, 17 have been teams seeded #3 or worse (71 were a #1 or #2 seed).

    But yeah, getting a top 2 seed (and a bye) is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    In the 44 Super Bowls where teams have been seeded, 10 have been won by teams seeded #3 or worse (34 were a #1 or #2 seed). Of the 88 Super Bowl participants in that time period, 17 have been teams seeded #3 or worse (71 were a #1 or #2 seed).

    But yeah, getting a top 2 seed (and a bye) is meaningless.
    And this season when they had home field and it mattered what happened?

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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    And this season when they had home field and it mattered what happened?
    So what you are saying is that your team sucks... Sucks to be you, for sure- having WON a playoff game. Terrible.

    Remind me again why you are a fan of any sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    So what you are saying is that your team sucks... Sucks to be you, for sure- having WON a playoff game. Terrible.

    Remind me again why you are a fan of any sport?
    Because of what happened on New Year's Day. That's why.

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    And this season when they had home field and it mattered what happened?
    The Vikings were the #6 seed this season. They did not have a bye.

    Or are you making up new arguments now that you've lost the bye argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Because of what happened on New Year's Day. That's why.
    You woke up at noon, naked on the floor of a restroom in a White Castle?

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    Re: NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Because of what happened on New Year's Day. That's why.
    Yea, so it does suck to be you. Sorry that nobody but you feels sorry for yourself. Good luck with that.

    Some people may remember that they should not have beaten New Orleans, and took them to the shed. You just remember that they lost. Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    Yea, so it does suck to be you. Sorry that nobody but you feels sorry for yourself. Good luck with that.

    Some people may remember that they should not have beaten New Orleans, and took them to the shed. You just remember that they lost. Yay.
    So you want me to have selective memory? Lol. Compartmentalization in sports does not work for me. Glad it works for you.

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    #1 seed is doing wonders for Baltimore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    So you want me to have selective memory? Lol. Compartmentalization in sports does not work for me. Glad it works for you.
    Some teams wish they can suck as bad as your team.

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