POTUS: He's A Witch!

[Rover]

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Sooo.....if nervous nellies are going to bleat over one poll showing "impeachment is losing support!!! OMG!!!" will the same people chime in when another poll shows its still at 50-43 in favor (and really, its doubtful you ever get much below the 43% given the cult like nature of the GOP)?

Or do we only emphasize polls that are favorable to Chump?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/polit...ews/index.html

Also, regarding Chump staying in office past his time, give me a break. The guy has no nuts. The minute he tries to remain after the Inauguration he opens himself up to criminal charges that will put him in jail for the rest of his life. He can't pardon himself after he's legally out of office. Does that seem likely, or does it seem more likely he makes baseless claims of being screwed out of the election and then forms his own media company to fleece his idiotic supports out of even more money while collecting Putin cash on the side to further dissent in the US?

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yep. When I say it, I'm just stating it in jest. We need to actively work to save ourselves.

Oh we will. And it will go one of two ways: tDon wins and "the people have spoken" and want him again.

OR tDon loses, election meddling from outside sources blamed, and the re-election results are nullified. And then he just stays in office while searching for who interfered. And while his actions are contested, someone leaves RBG's window open at night in winter causing her to catch pneumonia. And then Drumpf puts another SC justice in to secure his kinghood.

I’ve been saying it in jest for months and kep comments every time

[rufus]

Literally nobody think "our institutions will protect us." We have to protect our institutions.

And again, you are patently wrong about this. The column, or article, you always cite was written IN RESPONSE to all of those who were claiming our institutions would protect us.

[ticapnews]

Yep. When I say it, I'm just stating it in jest. We need to actively work to save ourselves.

Oh we will. And it will go one of two ways: tDon wins and "the people have spoken" and want him again.

OR tDon loses, election meddling from outside sources blamed, and the re-election results are nullified. And then he just stays in office while searching for who interfered. And while his actions are contested, someone leaves RBG's window open at night in winter causing her to catch pneumonia. And then Drumpf puts another SC justice in to secure his kinghood.

I give it a 20% chance we get a declaration of Martial Law before the election. Troops weren't deployed to the border just to save us all from hordes of immigrants. It was to find out just how many people would object to American military forces on our own soil. Gassing, shooting, etc non-violent protestors is already acceptable.

If there is an election and Sniffles loses there is no way Cult 45 accepts the results. Sniffles will blame immigrants voting illegally.

As for him being afraid of going to jail, he's already facing jail time. He has literally nothing to lose by contesting the election and refusing to accept any result he doesn't like. I realize most of you think our military or the Secret Service will prevent that, but he'll have had four years to make sure the SS agents and top military officers around him are loyal. He'll be well-insulated.

[Transplanted Tiger Fan]

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...Only because we have EVERY single Republican in the United States of America carrying his water. It's amazing...

Submitted as just one small piece of evidence from local coverage... Tom Reed (R-NY) Town Hall in Corning, NY

This particular dolt will likely get re-elected... again.

[Handyman]

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I give it a 20% chance we get a declaration of Martial Law before the election. Troops weren't deployed to the border just to save us all from hordes of immigrants. It was to find out just how many people would object to American military forces on our own soil. Gassing, shooting, etc non-violent protestors is already acceptable.

If there is an election and Sniffles loses there is no way Cult 45 accepts the results. Sniffles will blame immigrants voting illegally.

As for him being afraid of going to jail, he's already facing jail time. He has literally nothing to lose by contesting the election and refusing to accept any result he doesn't like. I realize most of you think our military or the Secret Service will prevent that, but he'll have had four years to make sure the SS agents and top military officers around him are loyal. He'll be well-insulated.

Sure thing Flaggy. And yeah that is exactly who sound like...well before they took his meds away

You people really need to step back from the ledge. Not only will Trump now not leave office (which assumes everyone will just walk away who can stop him) but now we wont even have an election? You people are becoming certifiable.

He can blame whoever he wants, and his people can choose to believe if they want. It changes nothing.

[BassAle]

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Also, regarding Chump staying in office past his time, give me a break. The guy has no nuts. The minute he tries to remain after the Inauguration he opens himself up to criminal charges that will put him in jail for the rest of his life. He can't pardon himself after he's legally out of office. Does that seem likely, or does it seem more likely he makes baseless claims of being screwed out of the election and then forms his own media company to fleece his idiotic supports out of even more money while collecting Putin cash on the side to further dissent in the US?

he's already negotiating a deal for a post-presidency reality show... doesn't seem like he wants or expects to stay in office forever

[First Time, Long Time]

Sure thing Flaggy. And yeah that is exactly who sound like...well before they took his meds away

You people really need to step back from the ledge. Not only will Trump now not leave office (which assumes everyone will just walk away who can stop him) but now we wont even have an election? You people are becoming certifiable.

He can blame whoever he wants, and his people can choose to believe if they want. It changes nothing.

It's amazing. Hell if all that is true...may as well stop the primary for the Dems right now.

[Rover]

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As for him being afraid of going to jail, he's already facing jail time. He has literally nothing to lose by contesting the election and refusing to accept any result he doesn't like.

No, he's not. As President can pardon himself for any federal crimes he's committed. He can't pardon himself for future crimes, like trying to stay in office beyond his term. That's a one way ticket to federal prison for him and anybody else that takes part.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Sure thing Flaggy. And yeah that is exactly who sound like...well before they took his meds away

You people really need to step back from the ledge. Not only will Trump now not leave office (which assumes everyone will just walk away who can stop him) but now we wont even have an election? You people are becoming certifiable.

He can blame whoever he wants, and his people can choose to believe if they want. It changes nothing.

No one's on any ledges. Every political norm has been changed in the last 3 years. Thinking another one could change is not crazy, it's acknowledging a pattern.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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For everyone who needs to hear this , namely our both sides crew.

Telling comparison of the Parties by ⁦@DouthatNYT⁩. The GOP is “craven and debased,” while the Democrats “have swung to an ideological extreme.” In reality, the median GOP Congressperson is far more “extreme” than the most left Democrat./1 https://t.co/C0zWu2EGK1

— Lawrence Glickman (@LarryGlickman) November 26, 2019

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No, he's not. As President can pardon himself for any federal crimes he's committed. He can't pardon himself for future crimes, like trying to stay in office beyond his term. That's a one way ticket to federal prison for him and anybody else that takes part.

Doubtful that he could pardon himself. More likely he could invoke 25 and have Acting President Pence do it instead. However, he has repeatedly made the case (and, in fact, Mueller made it for him) that as long as he stays in office he can't be indicted.

The legal and constitutional ability of a president to pardon himself (self-pardon) is an unresolved issue. During the Watergate scandal, President Nixon's lawyer suggested that a self-pardon would be legal, while the Department of Justice issued a memorandum opinion on August 5, 1974, stating that a president cannot pardon himself. The 1974 memo laid out a scenario in which, under the Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, the president could declare himself unable to perform his duties and could appoint the vice president as acting president. The acting president could then pardon the president and "thereafter the president could either resign or resume the duties of his office."

But again, that's only federal. He's not getting a pardon from Governor Cuomo.

[First Time, Long Time]

No one's on any ledges. Every political norm has been changed in the last 3 years. Thinking another one could change is not crazy, it's acknowledging a pattern.

It is crazy. This country isn't falling into a coup. And if one was attempted...it isn't happening without a fight.
So as usual...it's Chicken Little.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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i hope he chokes on turkey this week

Or maybe the answer is because the Nineteenth Amendment was ratified in 1919, so the centennial is this year? https://t.co/BJA372nFQY

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) November 26, 2019

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But again, that's only federal. He's not getting a pardon from Governor Cuomo.

Maybe he'll get DeSantis to pardon him for all state crimes and claim it's blanketed for all states, lol.