POTUS: He's A Witch!

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS: He's A Witch!

https://civiqs.com/documents/Civiqs_...ok_2019_12.pdf

The better/worse crosstab by region is flat. That surprised me. I guess it's that conservative regions are poorer so the two cancel.

[St. Clown]

Re: POTUS: He's A Witch!

1. Quantify "many."

2. Citation?

You need citation to understand that a number of the liberal posters on here have talked about being hunters themselves, having 1-3 guns (that I can recall)? They've had discussions on these in the gun threads that used to get a fair amount of traffic here.

[Kepler]

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You need citation to understand that a number of the liberal posters on here have talked about being hunters themselves, having 1-3 guns (that I can recall)? They've had discussions on these in the gun threads that used to get a fair amount of traffic here.

I want a citation for a scholarly survey on liberal gun ownership. I don't want a f-cking anecdote that you and your buddies like to fap to Deer Hunter.

Which was on again the other day. It gets better each time I watch it except Meryl Streep gets worse. De Niro has been so bad the last 20 years it's almost hard to remember how great he was once.

[aparch]

Liberals don't. But I wonder if we should.

You’re very presumptuous.

Yeah, Kepler is.

But I do agree with his point that there are large populations on the coasts that do not own a firearm. I would also hazard that there are Trump zealots who make these threats who also do not own a firearm. Might have to carry this on over in the guns thread.

[Kepler]

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Might have to carry this on over in the guns thread.

Will do. I found a start.

[aparch]

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2. Citation?

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS: He's A Witch!

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

I was going to the same place. :-)

The gun thread is either so far back I can't find it or I can't see anymore.

Personally own a gun: 

R 41
D 16

Don't own gun but someone else in household does:

R 15
D 9

Net has gun in household:

R 57 (rounding)
D 25

[aparch]

Re: POTUS: He's A Witch!

Yeah, looks like all the sportsman threads closed long ago, last non- mass shooting thread closed in August.

I'm cool discussing it here then.
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Also of note in your R/D breakdown is the independents who own guns.

[WeAreNDHockey]

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Liberals don't. But I wonder if we should.

A former co-worker of mine, who camps on a parcel of land about 100 miles to the political left of me, does. He has so many guns he often cannot remember just what guns he owns.

If the second American Civil war comes, it isn't going to be states succeeding and two "countries" raising armies and fighting a "traditional" war. It will be a guerrilla war, a war of terrorism. In fact, I would argue the bad guys have already fired the first shots.

On a different note, republicans in the House and Senate are playing a dangerous all or nothing game. They are putting all their chips in on the hope that all their constituents (or more accurately enough of their constituents) are so blind, stupid, racist, misguided or simple that endless shouting is all it will take for these politicians to retain their seats. I wish November 2020 would get here already.

[WeAreNDHockey]

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This is news?

I'm sure Alaskan liberals have guns to fight off bears in heat and Palins on a rampage, or vice versa. The vaaaast majority of liberals in Acela and CA do not have guns, because we're not psychotic. I am suggesting we might at least think about cultivating a certain amount of psychopathy. Not to ever use them -- we don't fap to mass murder fantasies like Republicans. But to harden the target. To... deter.

In the end, Republicans are cowards. They aren't going to take on anybody in a fair fight. But they might be emboldened if they think they can murder us in our sleep. They are bullies. Bullies always back down when challenged.

I have long thought the best way for us to get meaningful gun control was for every black man in America to apply for and possess a concealed carry permit...

[Spartanforlife4]

I'm not surprised. In my experience, most people who identify as "independent" are just paleocons who know the Republican Party will never cut spending as deeply as they want it cut. Most of them are probably quite happy with Dump's policies of isolationism, nationalism, appointing strict constructionist judges, and slowly strangling government agencies by not backfilling leadership positions.

I’ve found, at least anecdotally on Facebook, there’s a fairly high percentage of people who say they’re apolitical, think both parties are bad, or preach about how things would be better if we just talked like the old days, but who also end up posting right-leaning or anti-Clinton/Obama memes once election time rolls around.

[Kepler]

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I have long thought the best way for us to get meaningful gun control was for every black man in America to apply for and possess a concealed carry permit...

Agree completely.

Also works with Wall Street and regulation. Can't have them foreclosing on whites. That would be predatory.

Seriously, to get Socialism in America just make blacks rich.

[aparch]

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Like I pointed out, independents are a wild card, but when you look at Republican/lean Republican, there are less "people they know, not themselves" but the "own a gun" increases at the same rate for a net delta of zero.

The Dem/Lean Dem gets a bump in both ownership/knows a guy.

Political independents have the similar numbers as Republicans. If the popular vote breakdown percentage splits the same as gun ownership, I think Dems are okay.


Now, if Gun Ownership switches to an electoral college format...

[ScoobyDoo]

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I’ve found, at least anecdotally on Facebook, there’s a fairly high percentage of people who say they’re apolitical, think both parties are bad, or preach about how things would be better if we just talked like the old days, but who also end up posting right-leaning or anti-Clinton/Obama memes once election time rolls around.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Kepler]

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Now, if Gun Ownership switches to an electoral college format...

Well, it basically does. I have no cite for this but I'd bet Republicans have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more guns per capita than Democrats. All the fondlers and hoarders and preppers are Republican.