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    5 Q-Pac
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    7 Gate
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    5. Clarkson
    6. Brown
    7. Yale
    8. Union
    9. RPI
    10. Princeton
    11. Colgate
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    This will be a joint DrDemento and JennyRN entry as we pretty much agree on everything these days!

    1. Clarkson
    2. Cornell
    3. Harvard
    4. Quinnipiac
    5. Yale
    6. Dartmouth
    7. Rensselaer
    8. Union
    9. Brown
    10. Princeton
    11. Colgate
    12. St. Lawrence
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    Union
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    Princeton
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    Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDemento View Post
    This will be a joint DrDemento and JennyRN entry as we pretty much agree on everything these days!

    1. Clarkson
    2. Cornell
    3. Harvard
    4. Quinnipiac
    5. Yale
    6. Dartmouth
    7. Rensselaer
    8. Union
    9. Brown
    10. Princeton
    11. Colgate
    12. St. Lawrence
    I suspect that Jenny forgot her password.

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    Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

    Three hours to go! Not going to spam the other threads, just bumping this to the top one last time.

    Here are the statistics so far (not including the Random Number and Dr. Last Year; n=41):
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    Team       | Mean±SD  | Median(Range) |
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    Cornell    |  1.5±0.7 |   1   ( 1- 3) |
    Clarkson   |  2.4±1.2 |   2   ( 1- 5) |
    Quinnipiac |  3.0±1.2 |   3   ( 1- 5) |
    Harvard    |  3.8±1.2 |   4   ( 1- 7) |
    Dartmouth  |  5.3±1.6 |   5   ( 1- 8) |
    Yale       |  5.9±1.5 |   6   ( 2- 9) |
    RPI        |  7.8±1.9 |   8   ( 1-12) |
    Brown      |  8.1±1.8 |   8   ( 5-12) |
    Union      |  8.9±1.6 |   9   ( 4-12) |
    Colgate    |  9.6±2.0 |  10   ( 5-12) |
    Princeton  | 10.3±1.3 |  10   ( 7-12) |
    SLU        | 11.2±1.0 |  11   ( 9-12) |
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    1. Clarkson
    2. Cornell
    3. Quinnipiac
    4. Dartmouth
    5. Harvard
    6. Brown
    7. RPI
    8. Yale
    9. Princeton
    10. Union
    11. Colgate
    12. SLU

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    1. Quinnipiac
    2. Cornell
    3. Harvard
    4. Clarkson
    5. Yale
    6. Dartmouth
    7. RPI
    8. Princeton
    9. Brown
    10. Union
    11. Colgate
    12. SLU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    I suspect that Jenny forgot her password.
    Nah-she was asked to change it as it had been too long since last usage and it was too old. But she did not feel the need to post anything and we only disagreed on one placing in the list which we talked about and of course she agreed that i would know best (if you believe that last part, i have a nice bridge designed by an RPI boy to sell you over the East River in NYC)!!!
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    TBRW, published last month:

    1. Harvard 29
    2. Cornell 28
    3. Quinnipiac 28
    4. Clarkson 27
    5. Union 25
    6. Dartmouth 22
    7. Yale 21
    8. Brown 21
    9. Colgate 18
    10. Princeton 17
    11. RPI 17
    12. SLU 11


    Kepler, if I can sneak in:


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    12. SLU
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    Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    TBRW, published last month:
    ...
    Kepler, if I can sneak in:
    ...
    I'll include the TBRW picks, but unless you can show that your personal picks were recorded somewhere before 10/25, I'll have to say no on those. I'll keep track of them as far as scoring goes, but they won't be included as part of the fan average (not that they'd affect it anyway) and you won't be eligible to win. I hope you understand.

    Here are the final statistics for all on-time human entries to the contest (not including the Random Number and Dr. Last Year; n=44):
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    Team       | Mean±SD  | Median(Range) |
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    Cornell    |  1.6±0.7 |   1   ( 1- 3) |
    Clarkson   |  2.5±1.3 |   2   ( 1- 5) |
    Quinnipiac |  3.0±1.2 |   3   ( 1- 5) |
    Harvard    |  3.8±1.2 |   4   ( 1- 7) |
    Dartmouth  |  5.3±1.6 |   5   ( 1- 8) |
    Yale       |  6.0±1.5 |   6   ( 2- 9) |
    RPI        |  7.9±1.9 |   8   ( 1-12) |
    Brown      |  8.0±1.7 |   8   ( 5-12) |
    Union      |  8.9±1.6 |   9   ( 4-12) |
    Colgate    |  9.7±2.0 |  10   ( 5-12) |
    Princeton  | 10.2±1.3 |  10   ( 7-12) |
    SLU        | 11.3±1.0 |  12   ( 9-12) |
    We're all pretty sure that Cornell is going to take first place overall, with them receiving over half (24) of the first place votes and no vote below third place. Colgate actually edged out RPI for being the team with the least consensus (standard deviations of 1.96 and 1.91, respectively.

    As with the last few years, no team was picked for every position (RPI was picked everywhere but 2nd-4th), and no position had every team picked (5th place had everyone but Cornell, Princeton, and SLU).

    Patronick's selections are nearly identical to the fan average, with only SLU and Princeton swapped at the bottom of the standings. In a repeat of last year, the Random Number is the furthest away from the consensus (as is to be expected), and ColSkate65 is the most unique human poster.

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    (left: Mean ± SD, right: heat map of votes)

    Because the tiebreakers (see below) used put Cornell at a heavy disadvantage and thus 10th place, all of our picks are really bad so far, but that will get fixed as ECAC games start being played for real. Dutchman and johnk are currently in the lead and Rjm7272 is bringing up the rear for now. Here are the standings with 127 games to play:
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    Rk Post#         Contestant  Raw
     1    16           Dutchman  216
          44              johnk  216
     3    30           lugnut92  224
     4     4           sezenack  228
     5    15      ecachawkeyfan  232
     6    20   Earl_Leatherland  232
     7     8       techtodenver  240
          43  DrDemento+JennyRN  240
     9    14               Turk  242
          50               TBRW  242
    11    24  Bronco Hockey Fan  246
    12     6         Ralph Baer  248
          28            bothman  248
    14    25   TalonsUpPuckDown  252
    15     2        The Coaches  258
    16    13          Patronick  260
    17    33        Mike Hutter  262
    18    22           TchrBill  268
          42          BIG Green  268
    20     3          CLKHockey  270
    21    39          red133883  274
          48        NPC19850330  274
    23    12         Go Puckman  276
          19         GoldenBear  276
          27          GreenBear  276
    26     2          The Media  278
          26           Saints#1  278
          35            bothman  278
    29    38            apple2k  280
    30    17      goldenbriggsy  282
    31     9  iowabasedtraveler  284
    32    11            kdiff77  286
          47       SnowDogFlyer  286
    34     7            drshoen  288
    35     5       allnightwong  290
          18             cudmud  290
          23            fr. joe  290
    38    34            Rainman  294
    39     2  The Random Number  298
           2      Dr. Last Year  298
    41    37              sgt12  300
    42    32 still an empty net  312
    43    41           sshablak  332
    44    31           slumulva  348
    45    29         ColSkate65  360
    46    40            Rjm7272  402
    --    50            Kepler*  294
    This early in the season, I always have to invent a bunch of tiebreakers to allow discrete rankings. They are as follows: ECAC points, ECAC games played, ECAC goal differential (H2H and vs. top4/8 skipped for being meaningless), overall "points", and overall wins. This doesn't really matter, but we have to do something for now.
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    So many teams played games this weekend! Bothman has taken over the number one spot and all of our scores have improved dramatically! I still wouldn't look too closely at these rankings (every tie had to be broken by goal differential against top 4 opponents, which I don't see remaining a problem), but here they are:

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     Rk Post#         Contestant  Raw
     1    35            bothman  108
     2     8       techtodenver  110
     3    37              sgt12  114
     4     9  iowabasedtraveler  116
     5    38            apple2k  120
     6    13          Patronick  128
          23            fr. joe  128
     8    15      ecachawkeyfan  132
     9    31           slumulva  134
    10    12         Go Puckman  136
          33        Mike Hutter  136
          51    The Fan Average  136
    13    44              johnk  142
    14     6         Ralph Baer  144
          43  DrDemento+JennyRN  144
          47       SnowDogFlyer  144
    17    14               Turk  146
          32 still an empty net  146
    19    17      goldenbriggsy  150
    20     2          The Media  154
    21    25   TalonsUpPuckDown  156
    22    30           lugnut92  160
    23    41           sshablak  162
    24    19         GoldenBear  164
    25    22           TchrBill  166
          42          BIG Green  166
    27    11            kdiff77  168
    28    50               TBRW  172
    29    16           Dutchman  174
          27          GreenBear  174
    31     3          CLKHockey  176
    32    39          red133883  178
    33     2        The Coaches  182
           4           sezenack  182
          26           Saints#1  182
    36     7            drshoen  190
          29         ColSkate65  190
    38     5       allnightwong  192
          18             cudmud  192
    40    34            Rainman  200
    41    24  Bronco Hockey Fan  202
    42    48        NPC19850330  204
    43    40            Rjm7272  210
    44     2      Dr. Last Year  222
    45    20   Earl_Leatherland  234
    46     2  The Random Number  310
    --    50            Kepler*  170
    Last edited by lugnut92; 11-15-2019 at 04:23 PM. Reason: Fixed
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugnut92 View Post
    Bothman has taken over the number one spot and all of our scores have improved dramatically!

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     1    35            bothman  108
     2     8       techtodenver  110
     3    37              sgt12  114
     4     9  iowabasedtraveler  116
     5    28            bothman  120
    1st and 5th?
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    One place ahead of the RandomNumber. Oof!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEagleUSA View Post
    1st and 5th?
    Oh jeez, it looks like he revised his picks and I completely failed to notice. That's on me. Only the later pick (post#35) will be considered in the rankings, and I'll edit the above post right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugnut92 View Post
    Oh jeez, it looks like he revised his picks and I completely failed to notice. That's on me. Only the later pick (post#35) will be considered in the rankings, and I'll edit the above post right now.
    Bothman can't use both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugnut92 View Post
    Oh jeez, it looks like he revised his picks and I completely failed to notice. That's on me. Only the later pick (post#35) will be considered in the rankings, and I'll edit the above post right now.
    Sorry about that. Yes - the later one is the right one. I probably should have deleted my earlier post, but was afraid you might have already captured it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bothman View Post
    Sorry about that. Yes - the later one is the right one. I probably should have deleted my earlier post, but was afraid you might have already captured it.
    No, you did exactly the right thing, I just didn't notice that you'd made a second post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugnut92 View Post
    I'll include the TBRW picks, but unless you can show that your personal picks were recorded somewhere before 10/25, I'll have to say no on those. I'll keep track of them as far as scoring goes, but they won't be included as part of the fan average (not that they'd affect it anyway) and you won't be eligible to win. I hope you understand.
    That's totally fair, thank you. Go ahead and drop my personal picks off the chart completely.
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    (left: Mean ± SD, right: heat map of votes)
    These are beautiful! What did you do them in? (I'm going to try to do the same thing in TBRW.)
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