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    Re: Utica College hockey. ..Can we catch a break this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
    Because itís also not able to be replicated at 98 percent of the other D3 rinks.

    Does Utica ever use the replay system at its games when itís not hosting the ncaa final four?
    If they did, that would obviate this particular discussion.

    And simply because most arenas don't have replay capability isn't (IMO) much of an argument for ignoring it when it's available. How would reviewing the odd goal put anyone else at a disadvantage?

    (Still, I'd only use it to determine whether the puck went in or not. Wouldn't want reviews for crease violations, penalties, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    If they did, that would obviate this particular discussion.

    And simply because most arenas don't have replay capability isn't (IMO) much of an argument for ignoring it when it's available. How would reviewing the odd goal put anyone else at a disadvantage?

    (Still, I'd only use it to determine whether the puck went in or not. Wouldn't want reviews for crease violations, penalties, etc.)
    Because it's not fair to the 98% of the other teams who cant get an outcome changed....rules are there for a reason.. it's not that complicated. Hell most rinks have LiveBarn now and that cant even be used for malicious penalties

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Because it's not fair to the 98% of the other teams who cant get an outcome changed....rules are there for a reason.. it's not that complicated. Hell most rinks have LiveBarn now and that cant even be used for malicious penalties
    (Hey Champs! Long time, no squabble. )

    Kindly explain how is it unfair to any other team(s) if the right call is made anywhere else on a given night?

    Furthermore, say that 98% of D-3 rinks have the technology in place to get that call right... Do you contend that they shouldn't use it because that would be unfair to the 2% who don't?
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    As an NCAA softball umpire, video review is going to be coming to all divisions and conferences. It was used in the SEC this year during playoffs, so the push has begun. If it is instituted in softball there is no reason why it cant be put in place for hockey. Plus some of the fields I've worked......you would wonder how they even live stream games.🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by capswon View Post
    As an NCAA softball umpire, video review is going to be coming to all divisions and conferences. It was used in the SEC this year during playoffs, so the push has begun. If it is instituted in softball there is no reason why it cant be put in place for hockey. Plus some of the fields I've worked......you would wonder how they even live stream games.��
    Questec (sp?) is coming to MLB for the strike-zone, too, I'm pretty sure. The time has certainly come for that.

    (But, as a fan of NCAA softball, I'd prefer to have an ump to yell at for the time-being. )
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    No worries Fish, you can still yell at us. It's only going to be video review for game situations not for the strike zone. However I've never gotten a call wrong because one team always says I was right!😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by capswon View Post
    No worries Fish, you can still yell at us. It's only going to be video review for game situations not for the strike zone. However I've never gotten a call wrong because one team always says I was right!😃
    Well YEAH! I'm never wrong either. (Separated at birth, maybe?)

    Just curious, do you call any JUCO games? Our local team is Herkimer CCC. Those women win 35 games a year, but are always bridesmaids. Still, it's fun to watch them ahead by a football score in the middle of the 4th vs. every other regional team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capswon View Post
    As an NCAA softball umpire, video review is going to be coming to all divisions and conferences. It was used in the SEC this year during playoffs, so the push has begun. If it is instituted in softball there is no reason why it cant be put in place for hockey. Plus some of the fields I've worked......you would wonder how they even live stream games.🤔
    I donít see it being mandated at the NCAA Division III level for regular season games for a long time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
    I don’t see it being mandated at the NCAA Division III level for regular season games for a long time....
    I don't see it, either, sadly.

    D-3 hockey has been behind the power-curve for many, many, many years. Witness the very recent smoky rooms.

    Our sport has been dragged (kicking and screaming) into the baseline of logic just recently (via the PWR), but there are still miles to go.

    I don't get it that... Does anyone?

    Good God, D-3 can't employ $10 HD trail cams on either side of the posts, just to get results more accurate...?

    (Nope. The ridiculous D-3 "by laws" trump reason every time.)
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    Re: Utica College hockey. ..Can we catch a break this season?

    I see a couple of guys have moved along and are no longer
    On the roster...

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    No, just D1,2,3. Our association is not affiliated with any JUCO conferences.

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    Well, Talk about surviving! Utica dominated for long stretches of first and second periods. Then inexplicably they took their foot off the gas and packed it in playing not to lose in the third. Oh well get the W get on the bus and get ready to rumble in the W.B

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    We were out with similar old gas-bags tonight, but got home in time to see the 3rd v. Oswego.

    That certainly wasn't a signature win, but it would have been a bad loss. It's odd to see a mediocre OSU team, but that's happened for the first time I've seen in 20 years of watching D-3 hockey.

    Again, Landrigan was a key piece of the puzzle. UC now has 2.5 lines which have to be considered and defended.

    I'm definitely encouraged.
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    I'd call that a good win, PWR doesn't look at how they won, over the years it seems Ozz has always put a damper on UC's season, especially in Oswego. OOC, when was the last time UC beat Ozz in Oswego, ever ? Pios #9 in PWR now.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    I'd call that a good win, PWR doesn't look at how they won, over the years it seems Ozz has always put a damper on UC's season, especially in Oswego. OOC, when was the last time UC beat Ozz in Oswego, ever ? Pios #9 in PWR now.
    If they ever won in Oswego I don't remember it... And isn't that your alma mater at #4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    If they ever won in Oswego I don't remember it... And isn't that your alma mater at #4?
    Dec 7, 2012. 3-2

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    Had a Fish moment up here at Clarkson. 1st Clarkson goal went under video review lol

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    Re: Utica College hockey. ..Can we catch a break this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    If they ever won in Oswego I don't remember it... And isn't that your alma mater at #4?
    It sure is, what is it, their third year in D3 ? Not too shabby !
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCBadger View Post
    Dec 7, 2012. 3-2
    Thanks. I kinda thought that UC engineered a big upset there years ago, but, then again, I forget what I had for breakfast most days.

    Oswego has been as good as it gets in the East for the 20 years I've paid attention. Even winning against this year's atypical iteration feels like a feather in UC's cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    It sure is, what is it, their third year in D3 ? Not too shabby !
    S***, I guess.

    I felt that the tie in Utica was a disappointment at the time, but maybe not. Canton looks like the real deal so far.

    Always fun to see upstart programs get up to speed so quickly.

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