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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    Bernie bros gonna bro.

    Anyone that isnít a 78 year old senator from Vermont with heart disease sucks for every possible reason.
    You really can stop with this "Bernie Bros" garbage. You sound about as intelligent as a redhat calling us a libt@rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    So they happened immediately before and after he was there, yet somehow he wasn't supposed to worry about it happening in the interim while he was there?

    Your logic is interesting.
    Uh no I just said he wasnít in any real danger because he wasnít despite what he keeps saying, this isnít hard to understand.
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    You really can stop with this "Bernie Bros" garbage. You sound about as intelligent as a redhat calling us a libt@rd.
    Well itís not like they can actually argue that their more regressive policy proposals are better so what other option do they have?

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    Uh no I just said he wasnít in any real danger because he wasnít despite what he keeps saying, this isnít hard to understand.
    What is your definition of "real danger?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    What is your definition of "real danger?"
    Being within five miles of a bombing while he was there would be more dangerous than anything we can verifiably say he experienced.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Uh no I just said he wasnít in any real danger because he wasnít despite what he keeps saying, this isnít hard to understand.Well itís not like they can actually argue that their more regressive policy proposals are better so what other option do they have?
    So, bombings before, and after, but not during.

    I'd say he did his job as the Armed Forces Uber, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Being within five miles of a bombing while he was there would be more dangerous than anything we can verifiably say he experienced.
    Not my question. What is your definition of "real danger?"

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    What is your definition of "real danger?"
    Col. Jessup : [refering to Santiago] I felt his life might be in danger.

    Kaffee : Grave danger?

    Col. Jessup : [sarcastically] Is there another kind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Not my question. What is your definition of "real danger?"
    Like do you want me to pull up the dictionary definition of danger or...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Like do you want me to pull up the dictionary definition of danger or...?
    Your definition, whatever that may be. Im trying to understand your previous posts. Im guessing my hang up is on your definition of real danger.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Well itís not like they can actually argue that their more regressive policy proposals are better so what other option do they have?
    Don't lump me in with this. I haven't said a negative thing about the Democrats running for the nomination (except maybe Grandpa Joe) this election cycle. Most of those doing the attacking aren't in favor of "regressive" policies. They might not support candidates as progressive as Bernie but they are not "regressive" and neither are their policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    Don't lump me in with this. I haven't said a negative thing about the Democrats running for the nomination (except maybe Grandpa Joe) this election cycle. Most of those doing the attacking aren't in favor of "regressive" policies. They might not support candidates as progressive as Bernie but they are not "regressive" and neither are their policies.
    Thatís why we call him a Bernie Bro. He fits the stereotype.

    Not all Bernie supporters are Bernie Bros. I supported Bernie in the primary against Hillary (but I thought Hillary would make a fine president and I never said anything bad about her).

    Trip acts like Warren is to the right of Iim Inhofe

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    Keeping private healthcare around so they can deny peoplesí claims and profit off of human misery is regressive. There is one candidate who we can absolutely for sure say doesnít want that but thatís at best a question mark with their preferred candidate given how wishy washy sheís been about single payer. Thatís not even getting into some her previous foreign policy and other positions that Iíve noted here.

    And if weíre allowed to call out republicans for all of their ****ty positions then we can be consistent about it as it applies to the donut twitter crowd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Keeping private healthcare around so they can deny peoplesí claims and profit off of human misery is regressive. There is one candidate who we can absolutely for sure say doesnít want that but thatís at best a question mark with their preferred candidate given how wishy washy sheís been about single payer.
    I hate to break it to you but even Saint Bernie wonít be able to deliver on 100% Medicare for all.

    The most realistic path forward is to shore up the ACA and introduce a public option. When people see is better private insurance will die.

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    Ok? Good thing weíre talking in the context of a primary where the other opponents arenít even going to try to implement it or do anything to push the party further towards that position so... heís still light years better.

    And lol at a public option being the answer.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    I hate to break it to you but even Saint Bernie wonít be able to deliver on 100% Medicare for all.
    If you go to his rallies (which the media does a great job not to cover) he says repeatedly that he won't be able to do it alone. It's a theme of his campaign. "Not me. Us." It will take a mandate from the electoral masses - and likely a major leftward swing in Congress (Senate especially) - to get his plans passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    If you go to his rallies (which the media does a great job not to cover) he says repeatedly that he won't be able to do it alone. It's a theme of his campaign. "Not me. Us." It will take a mandate from the electoral masses - and likely a major leftward swing in Congress (Senate especially) - to get his plans passed.
    There are plenty of things a president can do on their own too even without congress approval especially in regards to foreign policy but also as far as how they use the various departments at their disposal (labor relations board, DOJ, IRS, antitrust stuff etc.).

    Hell even just not using the full weight of the DOJ to bash in the skulls of occupy protestors or imprison whistle blowers wouldíve been an improvement over the alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Keeping private healthcare around so they can deny peoplesí claims.
    So nothing will be denied in the Medicare for all / public insurance / government run insurance (or whatever we want to call it)?

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Iím sure if you tried to get the government to pay for some cosmetic surgery itíd be denied. Both sides am I right?

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Iím sure if you tried to get the government to pay for some cosmetic surgery itíd be denied. Both sides am I right?
    Right now, my insurance considers gender confirmation surgery, such as an orchiectomy (testicles removed) or a vaginoplasty (where that thing between my legs is turned inside out for a vag), as "cosmetic" and will not pay for it. Even if the feds provide M4A, they'll still consider it "cosmetic," so I'm still screwed.
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    Thatís actually not true seeing as itís currently covered by Medicare and falls under Bwrnieís definition of medical necessity. And if you think a guy whoís gone to LGBT rallies since the 70ís would just drop it from Medicare idk what to tell you.

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