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  • #931
    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    "I get a sense among certain young people on social media that the way of making change is to be as judgemental as possible about other people."
    "One of the things I do worry about among progressives in the United States, maybe it's true here as well, is a certain kind of rigidity where we say 'Uh, I'm sorry, this is how it's going to be' ....
    This guy would get butchered on this board
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    • #932
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      How much of a sales tax would it cost to pay for all military expenditures, on and off the books?
      (On the books) military is about 3% of GDP, whereas healthcare is 20%, so probably about 4x or 5x less.
      If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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      • #933
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

        Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
        Yahoo reports it would take a 42% sales tax to pay for M4A.

        Not buying it.
        the idea of a 42% value added tax (VAT) was listed as ONE potential option to pay for M4A among 8 options in a report by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. A VAT is not the same as a sales tax though.

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        • #934
          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

          Saw Amy interviewed this morning. So fun to watch her talk about how she wants to be "President for all Americans" (the, I can work with Republicans stance) and then two minutes later whine about how she can't get her election security bill to the floor of the Senate because of Turtle Boy. Sorry, Amy. The two thoughts don't square. I guess she forgot that Barack Obama was a "President for all Americans" and he couldn't work with them either. Even though he desperately tried and wanted to work with them.
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          Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
          Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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          • #935
            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

            "President for all Americans" is what you say when you're a centrist trying to carve out your lane.
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            • #936
              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

              Funny thing about the Barrack quote is that it probably describes the pseudo-woke centrist identity politics crowd better than the left.

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              • #937
                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                Saw Amy interviewed this morning. So fun to watch her talk about how she wants to be "President for all Americans" (the, I can work with Republicans stance) and then two minutes later whine about how she can't get her election security bill to the floor of the Senate because of Turtle Boy. Sorry, Amy. The two thoughts don't square. I guess she forgot that Barack Obama was a "President for all Americans" and he couldn't work with them either. Even though he desperately tried and wanted to work with them.
                Is she supposed to say I want to be a President for the Democrats and **** everyone else?
                I mean yes we want to win but saying everyone else can go suck an egg doesn't seem like a very good strategy.
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                • #938
                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  "President for all Americans" is what you say when you're a centrist trying to carve out your lane.
                  Don’t need to make room....nobody drives there. That lane is wide open.
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                  • #939
                    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                    Don’t need to make room....nobody drives there. That lane is wide open.
                    Mayor Pete, Biden, Klobuchar, Booker, Harris. Yeah, there's lots of room.
                    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • #940
                      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      "President for all Americans" is what you say when you're a centrist trying to carve out your lane.
                      It's what you say at the National Party Convention and run ads for the two month sprint to the finish line. Then you get elected and govern from an extreme. Well, if you're a Republican. Democrats play Charlie Brown and Lucy once they get elected.
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                      • #941
                        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                        Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                        Funny thing about the Barack quote is that it probably describes the pseudo-woke centrist identity politics crowd better than the left.
                        This is the most meta-woke whining I've ever seen. The "crowd" is especially a nice touch. You must be the wokest S.O.B of all time if you're way more woke than that pseudo-woke "crowd."
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                        • #942
                          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                          Don’t need to make room....nobody drives there. That lane is wide open.
                          ?

                          23 people ran for the Democratic nomination. 19 of them are centrists. Bernie and Warren are liberals. Gabbard is troll. Willliamson is a Tralfamadorian.
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                          • #943
                            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                            Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
                            saying everyone else can go suck an egg doesn't seem like a very good strategy.
                            It's worked for the Right for 25 years.
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                            • #944
                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              It's worked for the Right for 25 years.
                              And?
                              Lowest common denominator...not a good move if you want to affect change.
                              Be better than them...dont become them.
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                              • #945
                                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                                Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                                Funny thing about the Barrack quote is that it probably describes the pseudo-woke centrist identity politics crowd better than the left.
                                I'll bet you thought that sounded so smart when you typed it.

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