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  • #421
    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    And what does that have to do with increasing the minimum wage beyond nothing more than abject poverty?
    Because other companies will not raise their wages in a relative manner, thereby possible shifting employees to less stressful jobs that pay only slightly less, creating an emptiness in some markets that is not currently there. Worse cases would also include more automation (notice the uptick in self-checkouts at stores? Each station = one less job), or less hours overall with more part-time workers to fill said hours (more jobs, but more hours needed by a person to make a living). Finally, stores will cut benefits when they can, so one might be making more money, but that money will have to go to other expenses caused by getting that pay raise.

    For the automation part, there's a reason I refuse to use them. I want the store clerks to keep their jobs.
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    • #422
      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

      Originally posted by The Rube View Post
      Because other companies will not raise their wages in a relative manner, thereby possible shifting employees to less stressful jobs that pay only slightly less, creating an emptiness in some markets that is not currently there. Worse cases would also include more automation (notice the uptick in self-checkouts at stores? Each station = one less job), or less hours overall with more part-time workers to fill said hours (more jobs, but more hours needed by a person to make a living). Finally, stores will cut benefits when they can, so one might be making more money, but that money will have to go to other expenses caused by getting that pay raise.

      For the automation part, there's a reason I refuse to use them. I want the store clerks to keep their jobs.
      Dude, they already do that. There's a reason we have a "gig" economy (and that isn't short for 'gigabit' or anything like that; it's a reference to a gig, like a band gets a gig). That economy is already taking away ALL benefits. Forcing companies to recognize these people as employees and pay them a living wage is a start. We can work on benefits after we set a baseline.
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      • #423
        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        Dude, they already do that. There's a reason we have a "gig" economy (and that isn't short for 'gigabit' or anything like that; it's a reference to a gig, like a band gets a gig). That economy is already taking away ALL benefits. Forcing companies to recognize these people as employees and pay them a living wage is a start. We can work on benefits after we set a baseline.
        And companies will still find ways to screw (for lack of a better term) employees. They will not make the shareholders mad, because if they do, some higher ups will lose their jobs and the higher ups cannot have that happening.

        And you didn't have to explain "gig." I understand that completely. Oh wait, I'm just a warehouse worker. Sorry. Derp-a-derp.
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        • #424
          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

          Originally posted by The Rube View Post
          And you didn't have to explain "gig." I understand that completely. Oh wait, I'm just a warehouse worker. Sorry. Derp-a-derp.
          **** off. That wasn't being condescending. That was explaining because everyone I've explained that to so far didn't know that's where it came from.

          When have I EVER made a comment disparaging your job? You can take your sanctimonious martyrdom crap elsewhere.
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          Originally posted by SanTropez
          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
          Originally posted by Kepler
          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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          • #425
            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

            Originally posted by The Rube View Post
            Because other companies will not raise their wages in a relative manner, thereby possible shifting employees to less stressful jobs that pay only slightly less, creating an emptiness in some markets that is not currently there. Worse cases would also include more automation (notice the uptick in self-checkouts at stores? Each station = one less job), or less hours overall with more part-time workers to fill said hours (more jobs, but more hours needed by a person to make a living). Finally, stores will cut benefits when they can, so one might be making more money, but that money will have to go to other expenses caused by getting that pay raise.

            For the automation part, there's a reason I refuse to use them. I want the store clerks to keep their jobs.
            If there is emptiness in a market and it truly needs to be filled, then employers will raise wages to attract workers.

            Automation is happening anyway. Are we going to suddenly make engineering and software development a terrible paying job so it stops those industries from creating self driving cars because it will eventually eliminate truckers?
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            • #426
              Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

              Brent, since I am the other warehouse worker here I’m allowed to say this to you: Shut the **** up and get off the cross, we need the wood.

              People are going in on you not because you work in a warehouse but because you hold stupid opinions.
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              • #427
                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                **** off. That wasn't being condescending. That was explaining because everyone I've explained that to so far didn't know that's where it came from.

                When have I EVER made a comment disparaging your job? You can take your sanctimonious martyrdom crap elsewhere.
                It wasn't you ripping the job (which you didn't), it was you assuming I didn't know what a "gig economy" was. If I didn't know, I would have asked what you meant.
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                • #428
                  Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                  Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                  Brent, since I am the other warehouse worker here I’m allowed to say this to you: Shut the **** up and get off the cross, we need the wood.

                  People are going in on you not because you work in a warehouse but because you hold stupid opinions.
                  I hold different opinions.
                  https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/busin...ase/index.html
                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-hours-changes

                  And as I mentioned before, more automation in stores.

                  How is this helping the workers?
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                  • #429
                    Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                    I hold different opinions.
                    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/busin...ase/index.html
                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-hours-changes

                    And as I mentioned before, more automation in stores.

                    How is this helping the workers?
                    No you hold stupid opinions that degrade people working honest jobs by believing they shouldn’t have a livable wage.

                    Quit trying to change topics to automation to avoid discussing your original statement.
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                    But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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                    • #430
                      Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                      No you hold stupid opinions that degrade people working honest jobs by believing they shouldn’t have a livable wage.

                      Quit trying to change topics to automation to avoid discussing your original statement.
                      I have never degraded people working honest jobs. I have specifically said I respect them working honest jobs. However, not all jobs are created equal. Certain jobs are stepping stones to a livable career job. Basic jobs train you for better paying jobs down the line.

                      It is why it's called a career path. Basic jobs set you up for success later in life, after you establish what you want to do with it, what job makes you happy, etc. They teach you work ethic, managing basic tasks, organization, etc.
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                      • #431
                        Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                        Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                        It wasn't you ripping the job (which you didn't), it was you assuming I didn't know what a "gig economy" was. If I didn't know, I would have asked what you meant.
                        Then what the **** was your childish outburst for? If my post was the first post where someone assumed you (or anyone, for that matter) didn’t know something, then I’ll eat my hat.
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                        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                        Originally posted by Kepler
                        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                        • #432
                          Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          Then what the **** was your childish outburst for? If my post was the first post where someone assumed you (or anyone, for that matter) didn’t know something, then I’ll eat my hat.
                          Would you like ketchup with that? And "childish outburst?" *chuckles* If you think that was a childish outburst...wow.
                          Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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                          • #433
                            Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                            I’m re-treading this joke again

                            Rube: don’t degrade my job
                            Also rube: your job is a starter job. It’s not a real job.
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                            Originally posted by SanTropez
                            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                            Originally posted by Kepler
                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                            • #434
                              Originally posted by The Rube View Post
                              For the automation part, there's a reason I refuse to use them. I want the store clerks to keep their jobs.
                              Self checkouts aren’t taking anyone’s job. Those are jobs they can’t fill anyway.

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                              • #435
                                Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers Vi: The Undiscovered Country

                                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                I’m re-treading this joke again

                                Rube: don’t degrade my job
                                Also rube: your job is a starter job. It’s not a real job.
                                It is a real job. Don't twist my words. It's not a CAREER. The "starter jobs" are not meant to make a career out of. It's the first step to a career, whether in that industry or something completely different.

                                Grade school is not college. Both are schooling and education, but are on different levels.
                                Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                                Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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