POTUS 45.59: It Was a Great Phone Call

[dxmnkd316]

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I love the various headlines
"We don't know what ultimate solution means"

Really? Didn't your college education include a rudimentary history class? Even most high schools teach you what that crap means.

(Yeah yeah, he didn't say 'final' but we all know exactly what he means)

This is what happens when the history channel substitutes garbage like Pawn Stars in place of, you know, history.

[Kepler]

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This is what happens when the history channel substitutes garbage like Pawn Stars in place of, you know, history.

[dxmnkd316]

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Wel, his dad was from Germany...

[ticapnews]

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This is what happens when the history channel substitutes garbage like Pawn Stars in place of, you know, history.

Ah, I remember the glory days, when the History Channel was the World War II channel. And MTV played music videos. Get off my lawn, you damm kids!

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Ah, I remember the glory days, when the History Channel was the World War II channel. And MTV played music videos. Get off my lawn, you damm kids!

The Hitler Channel!

[Kepler]

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The Hitler Channel!

We used to call it "Hitler and hardtack" because it was all either WW2 or the Civil War.

They had a show with (for the time) amazing animations about aerial battles during WW2 that was out of this world. Really, really good stuff about the performance of the fighter models and the advanced tactics they used. tldr: we lucked out: the Germans had superior machines but they were atypically dense in tactics and they didn't have strong pilot training; the Japanese OTOH has inferior planes but they were brilliant strategists and, early on anyway, they gave their pilots the initiative. It was only later when their AF basically became the Washington Generals.

If the Luftwaffe had had the same determination and aggressiveness as the Wehrmacht the Brits might well have lost the air war of the Battle of Britain and the invasion might have gone the other direction.

[French Rage]

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It was only later when their AF basically became the Washington Generals.

IIRC, they lost a lot of their experienced pilots and had to go to new guys, right? Plus, losing more carriers as time went on gave them less to work with.

[dxmnkd316]

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We used to call it "Hitler and hardtack" because it was all either WW2 or the Civil War.

They had a show with (for the time) amazing animations about aerial battles during WW2 that was out of this world. Really, really good stuff about the performance of the fighter models and the advanced tactics they used. tldr: we lucked out: the Germans had superior machines but they were atypically dense in tactics and they didn't have strong pilot training; the Japanese OTOH has inferior planes but they were brilliant strategists and, early on anyway, they gave their pilots the initiative. It was only later when their AF basically became the Washington Generals.

If the Luftwaffe had had the same determination and aggressiveness as the Wehrmacht the Brits might well have lost the air war of the Battle of Britain and the invasion might have gone the other direction.

I remember that show. It was ****ing brilliant.

[rufus]

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I thought the Zero was supposed to be the best plane in the Pacific.

[mookie1995]

I thought the Zero was supposed to be the best plane in the Pacific.

When it was IN the pacific

[St. Clown]

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I thought the Zero was supposed to be the best plane in the Pacific.

It was until the Hellcat II was introduced. The first Hellcat lacked, well, everything in comparison to the Zero.

[ticapnews]

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Thankfully Goering had the same military leadership skills as Sniffles.

Although at least he served in the first war, and was one of Germany's top aces. Like Arnold at Saratoga, if his history ended there he'd be a national hero instead of a pariah.

[mookie1995]

I didn’t know Germany had a large carrier fleet. i thought thst was just the US and Japan. Britain and others to a lesser extent.

Frenchie was referencing the japs here

[dxmnkd316]

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Yeah. I deleted my stupid post.

[LynahFan]

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It was at the start of the war, but Japan didn’t innovate the way the US did. Look at the difference between what the US had on hand at the start of the war (Dauntless, Buffalo, Flying Fortress) and what we were producing by the end (Mustangs, Black Widows, Lightning, Superfortress). Japanese were still building Zeros.