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    Ohio State 47, Colgate 25, SOG final.
    Ohio State 3, Colgate 0, final score.

    Benson was screened on their second goal.
    And McMann has a major penalty with over four minutes left in game. They scored a PPG.

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    The weekend played out exactly as expected. Just when you think we may have risen from the ashes, you realize we are still smoldering near the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TchrBill View Post
    The weekend played out exactly as expected. Just when you think we may have risen from the ashes, you realize we are still smoldering near the bottom.
    That's a bit harsh. Losing by one goal and keeping today's game close until the end, against a highly ranked OSU team gives me hope that we can hold our own in league play. These OOC games are all prep for the second half of the season against our ECAC brethren. This team has shown resilience and the ability to play in the moment. I don't feel we are smoldering near the bottom. The feeling I get is that these guys like challenges and will rise to the occasion.

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    I agree with ColSkate65.
    We played PWR #7 Ohio State close both games.
    We now play five ECAC teams in the month of January.
    Two at home (including Harvard) and three on the road.
    I predict we will go 3-2 in those five games.

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    It goes to show how mediocre the ECAC is this year if we can contend for 4th place.
    I actually thought we could win a game this weekend. Coming close no longer cuts it.

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    I agree this weekend was a little bit of a downer but we did play very respectable against one of the top teams in the country. Unfortuneately our lack of scoring talent returned to bite us. I'm seeing some good things happening and we're much improved over last year. Defensively we're good enough to win games, passing is good on breakouts, but no one can finish with much consistency. How many breakaways has McMann had this year, five maybe six or more ? I've seen him score on one, such a good skater, he's an enigma to me.

    I think we ran out of gas yesterday, but to say we suck after leading 2-1 late in the third Friday and 1-0 in the third last night is showing your frustration or lack of knowledge about the game. This team is getting closer, have patience grasshopper. If somehow we can get a bye in fourth place, win a playoff series at home, and get to Lake Placid I know I'll consider it a successful season.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Although our o-o-c schedule was a good one, and we played some quality teams, 2-7-3 doesn't cut it...it has been a recurring them during the current administration of the program...ANY chance of making a move up in the Pairwise is essentially gone for now (a split was needed)...and, once again, I agree with Magoo..."coming close no longer cuts it" is the appropriate summary...the ECAC, save Cornell, is down this year and, who knows, there's a lot of room to finish all over the place...at the end of the day perhaps only two ECAC teams make the NCAA field...hopefully we can get off to a good start in 2020...

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    While I respect and value all opinions on here, I absolutely totally disagree with the expectation of getting a win against PWR #7 Ohio State in Columbus this past weekend, and the notion that ‘coming close doesn’t cut it anymore.’
    Perspective is everything in life.
    If you were at Joe Louis Arena in 1990 and witnessed Colgate’s appearance in the national championship game (against Wisconsin), then you might have the propensity to think ‘coming close doesn’t cut it anymore.’
    If you have followed the current coach’s entire career at Colgate, you might want to say after a quarter of a century, ‘coming close doesn’t cut it anymore.’
    But, the reality is... college sports are a rolling four-year window. Anything before that isn’t relevant to PWR #35 Colgate playing at PWR #7 Ohio State in late 2019. Wisconsin’s ‘90 title hasn’t helped them on the ice in the last decade.
    We have to be realistic about what and who we have on the ice right now. Losing Colton Point early was an absolute game-changer for us. Last year, we had no offense, no defense and three freshman goalies. We got blown-out 7 times just last season, including at RIT. Those weren’t flukes. And you expect us to win at PWR #7 Ohio State this year?? And you are disappointed that we played the Buckeyes close two nights in a row in their arena??
    While Mitch Benson and Andrew Farrier are playing well this year, they aren’t playing at the level that Colton Point was two years ago.
    From the start of this year, our defense has played better than last year. And recently (since Clarkson), our offense has played better.
    I totally agree with Shabby, Ohio State is expecting to be in a Regional this year (and hoping to go to Detroit), while Colgate is hoping to go to Lake Placid this year. That is a HUGE difference in the realities of these two teams and their current on-ice situations. Hoping to beat them is one thing, but expecting to beat them and then saying ‘coming close doesn’t cut it anymore’ (when we played them close but didn’t beat them) is not realistic at all.
    Carry on.
    Last edited by iowabasedtraveler; 12-31-2019 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iowabasedtraveler View Post
    If you were at Joe Louis Arena in 1990 and witnessed Colgate’s appearance in the national championship game (against Wisconsin), then you might have the propensity to think ‘coming close doesn’t cut it anymore.’
    I was at Joe Louis Arena in 1990.

    We won at Lowell and we won at Harvard. I wasn’t “expecting” to win at Ohio State but thought we might have a chance to get a game. I’m just past the point of moral victories.

    If we had no chance to beat #7 Ohio State, then let’s just cancel the 2 games we have against #2 Cornell.
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    the current "administration" in MIH has an aggregate record of 4-18-4 against three Ohio programs (Miami, Ohio State and Bowling Green)...I go can further with the #s but it is clear that with the exception of 2013-14 our o-o-c play has produced very few quality wins...this, in part, explains our average Pairwise ranking in the 38 to 39 range over the past 15 years...not overly impressive...let's all hope this finally turns up

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    Magoo, you are right and I am wrong. You said...
    “I actually thought we could win a game this weekend.”
    I read it as ‘I actually thought we would win a game this weekend.’ Sorry.

    I am past ‘moral victories,’ too. Playing a top-tier team (such as Ohio State) ‘close’ and losing is still a Loss in the record books. I understand that. But, playing Ohio State close and losing this season is different than playing Holy Cross (for example) close and losing. For a team like Colgate in 2019-2020, to my way of thinking, one of those scenarios realistically ‘cuts it’ and one doesn’t.

    I think I am a realist with my expectations. There is always a chance or a possibility or slight hope to win any game against any other team on any given night. As far as PWR #2 Cornell is concerned, I will be very surprised if we sweep or split our rivalry series with them this year. Obviously there is a chance for it (as I just saw Dartmouth squeak past them in Hanover), which is why we’ll play the games. But am I going to launch into a tirade if we don’t? Absolutely not. As much as I personally hate to admit it, Cornell is that good this year. They are fast and accurate (with their passes and shots on net).

    I honestly understand people’s long-term frustrations with Colgate not regularly going to Lake Placid or a Regional. But don’t take it out on the current team players that work hard, never give up, and are steadily improving. The coaching staff must be doing something right to make that happen. And there seems to be genuine excitement about the recruiting process right now.

    Go ‘Gate.

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    No worries Iowa. Happy New Year to you and everyone.

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    me as well...in point of fact, IF our PP had been successful at even a 12 to 13 per cent rate this year we could certainly be 9-7-4 or something similar...recruiting is looking better and I think we'll see some excitement over the next few years (TheCoat does have some insight here; enough said)...we will continue to get faster and more skilled over the next couple of years, obviously necessary since very few teams are standing still...yes, the loss of Point was a setback, but goaltending is not our problem (we've got two very capable goalies)...the PK is better and one would think the PP HAS to get better (no way but up)...and hopefully, we can start attracting decent crowds to the new rink, since it is a lovely facility and we need to elevate a home ice advantage that is pretty much non-existent...many of us on this solid thread are getting pretty old (yours included)...I'd like one more Frozen Four in my life...

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    Matt Verboon is the leading scorer for the Swiss team, GP 3 3-3-6 points.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Happy and healthy New Year to all! Time to take stock. Some things to think about as you drink your eggnog: Stats that stand out to me: SHG = 0, to me this reflects a lack of quickness and opportunism. Our PP ranks 60th at 5.33% - what can you say? our GPG is at 2.10 ranking 48th while our GAPG is 2.45; the difference of -.35/goal is telling and is an obvious reason for our not winning the close games; we're not scoring way enough. Our PK seems to be a middling 79%.

    Some say the ECAC is weak this year, but why is Cornell ranked #2 and Clarkson #4? And others receiving votes are QU with 6 and Dartmouth with 2. Yes, there are a lot of bottom feeders, however this is cyclical; you could see a complete turnaround by next season. P'ton and Yale are down, but to our advantage. We sneak into #4 in league play, no telling what happens. As a steadily improving team - yes, I said improving - we could be a spoiler down the road.
    COLGATE HOCKEY:"Is this the year?"

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    Happy 2020 everyone, may this new year (and decade) bring good luck to the team.

    I really do hope we make it to Lake Placid this season. Last year's graduating class was the first since 1999 that NEVER made it to the ECAC Tournament Final Four. Time to start a new streak.
    Colgate '09

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    Your goaltender recruit Carter Gylander just got his rights traded to the Edmonton Oil Kings and it looks like they will make a push to sign him.

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    He's eighteen yrs old.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshablak View Post
    He's eighteen yrs old.
    Did you read that last post as Edmonton Oilers (as in the NHL team) as opposed to the WHL's Edmonton Oil Kings?

    He's not going to the NHL, but Major Junior would be a definite possibility.

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    Wouldn't that remove his college eligibility ? That's what I thought you meant. Not good news for us.
    It all starts with the goaltending.

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