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    Minnesota Wild hosting Winter Classic next year at Target Field. Early money is the Blackhawks, though opponent currently tbd.
    Why not TCF? Just because they already did the Stadium Series there?

    Except for when the Phillies hosted, it looks like baseball stadiums have only been used for the WC if it's a historic stadium (Fenway and Wrigley) or if there are no other stadiums in the city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Why not TCF? Just because they already did the Stadium Series there?

    Except for when the Phillies hosted, it looks like baseball stadiums have only been used for the WC if it's a historic stadium (Fenway and Wrigley) or if there are no other stadiums in the city.
    CitiField hosted the Rangers/Sabres Winter Classic in 2018.

    I really hope the Blackhawks aren’t the opponent. Even though they’re Canadian...how about Winnipeg? Not too far away and a pretty rabid fan base.
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    Rumor was the Blues were in talks with Minnesota and the NHL.

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    At this point I DO NOT want the Hawks involved in this. We've had more stadium games than anyone. Give Florida or another team their chance if you really want to press the issue. MN will sell this game out so the NHL will get their $$$.

    Adding in Winnipeg will allow them to sellout at $200+/seat however.
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    CitiField hosted the Rangers/Bruins Winter Classic in 2018.

    I really hope the Blackhawks aren’t the opponent. Even though they’re Canadian...how about Winnipeg? Not too far away and a pretty rabid fan base.
    New York doesn't have a football stadium. I'm guessing the NHL wanted to keep it in NYC since the Meadowlands isn't exactly Queens. Plus it would make for some difficult scheduling to have the Giants and Jets off for multiple weeks to end the year.

    Columbus (probably vs Detroit) at OSU has to be happening sometime soon, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Why not TCF? Just because they already did the Stadium Series there?

    Except for when the Phillies hosted, it looks like baseball stadiums have only been used for the WC if it's a historic stadium (Fenway and Wrigley) or if there are no other stadiums in the city.
    6 of the 12 have been held in baseball stadiums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    New York doesn't have a football stadium. I'm guessing the NHL wanted to keep it in NYC since the Meadowlands isn't exactly Queens. Plus it would make for some difficult scheduling to have the Giants and Jets off for multiple weeks to end the year.
    This would be super cool. Just 50 miles from Times Square.

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    6 of the 12 have been held in baseball stadiums.

    2009 Wrigley Field
    2010 Fenway Park
    2012 Citizens Bank Park
    2015 Nationals Park
    2017 Busch Stadium
    2018 Citi Field
    I've really preferred the sight lines for the football stadiums. The Cotton Bowl and Notre Dame stadium in particular have been great in my opinion.

    I really wish the NHL would can the Stadium Series and just focus on making these WC's special every year. This year's pageantry was awesome in my opinion the southern hockey fans showed up. I was really impressed with the Nashville contingent and both fan bases chanting back and forth were awesome.

    At first I was really skeptical about Dallas getting a Winter Classic before Minnesota and Colorado, but I've gotta admit that this year's WC turned out pretty great. I'm happy Minnesota finally gets it next year and hopefully Coors Field/Mile High Stadium will get it in 2022. Colorado/St. Louis or Colorado/Edmonton would be tremendous.
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    Hold it at the Cup winner's barn against the Cup loser.

    Or just sh-tcan it. Like MLB inter-league play, it had its fad novelty; now it's a chore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    This would be super cool. Just 50 miles from Times Square.

    That was the plan for the year it was at Citi Field, but talks with Army fell through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottK View Post
    6 of the 12 have been held in baseball stadiums.

    2009 Wrigley Field
    2010 Fenway Park
    2012 Citizens Bank Park
    2015 Nationals Park
    2017 Busch Stadium
    2018 Citi Field
    Right, but a lot of those have shared reasons for not being at the football stadium.

    Historic (Wrigley, Fenway)
    Football has natural grass, causing issues for potential playoff games (Wrigley, Citizens Bank, Nationals)
    Football stadium isnít actually in the city. This isnít a huge deal, but maybe for marketing it could be (Fenway, Nationals, Citi)
    Busch is kind of on its own since the football stadium is a dome so itís the only outdoor stadium.

    Target isnít historic, TCF has turf, is in the city, and itís not being used at that time of year anyway. Only thing I can see is they already used it on the Stadium Series.

    I wonder if they would ever consider a WC or SS in a dome. Iíd imagine 75k Wild fans inside US Bank would be one helluva environment.

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    Right, but a lot of those have shared reasons for not being at the football stadium.

    Historic (Wrigley, Fenway)
    Football has natural grass, causing issues for potential playoff games (Wrigley, Citizens Bank, Nationals)
    Football stadium isnít actually in the city. This isnít a huge deal, but maybe for marketing it could be (Fenway, Nationals, Citi)
    Busch is kind of on its own since the football stadium is a dome so itís the only outdoor stadium.

    Target isnít historic, TCF has turf, is in the city, and itís not being used at that time of year anyway. Only thing I can see is they already used it on the Stadium Series.

    I wonder if they would ever consider a WC or SS in a dome. Iíd imagine 75k Wild fans inside US Bank would be one helluva environment.
    So i went to a hockey game inside a dome stadium about 4 or 5 years ago. Oswego played Utica in the Carrier Dome in Syracuse and then an AHL game followed.

    It was unique for sure and I enjoyed it...but, i don't think it has the same appeal as being outdoors.

    The Winter Classic has been built on being outdoors and subject to the elements and getting back to the "roots" of pond hockey etc.

    I just don't think it'd have the same mass appeal if it was played inside in a dome...
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    So i went to a hockey game inside a dome stadium about 4 or 5 years ago. Oswego played Utica in the Carrier Dome in Syracuse and then an AHL game followed.

    It was unique for sure and I enjoyed it...but, i don't think it has the same appeal as being outdoors.

    The Winter Classic has been built on being outdoors and subject to the elements and getting back to the "roots" of pond hockey etc.

    I just don't think it'd have the same mass appeal if it was played inside in a dome...
    Agree. I saw Anchorage play in the Tacoma Dome. Even with a full house the high ceiling made it feel grubby and cavernous.

    Play it outside under a full moon in the snow or shelve it. For that matter just play it in Canada. That's where it belongs. Unless you want to play one in Russia to honor Dump.
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    Play the thing on Lake Minnetonka already.

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    Play the thing on Lake Minnetonka already.
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    For the sake of history, they should play a game out on Lake of the Woods in Kenora, Ont, home of the 1907 Stanley Cup Challenge winner, the Kenora Thistles. I think they played at least one game out on the Lake in that Challenge. Kenora once played in the Manitoba Hockey League, so a game between the Jets and Leafs would be fitting. It only has a population of about 15,000, but I'm sure they would all go to the game.

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