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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I've been saying for two-plus seasons now that Howard is toast. Too many groin injuries.
    A groin injury, a gr, gr, groin injury.

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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    Vegas fires Gallant and replaces him with DeBoer, who had been fired by San Jose earlier this year.

    What the what?
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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

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    Vegas fires Gallant and replaces him with DeBoer, who had been fired by San Jose earlier this year.

    What the what?
    Ha ha, bringing them down from the inside!

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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    The new rule for the All-Star game is that the coach of the winning team gets to keep his job.
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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

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    The new rule for the All-Star game is that the coach of the winning team gets to keep his job.
    ... through the weekend.

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    Vegas shows that a .601 win pct as coach isn't going to cut it. Seems reasonable!

    Everybody saw the result in St. Louis last season and wants to recreate that magic. Copycat league and all.

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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

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    A groin injury, a gr, gr, groin injury.
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    Since Nov 20th:

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    Despair for Lafreniere

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    Vegas shows that a .601 win pct as coach isn't going to cut it. Seems reasonable!
    Meh, they're under .500 this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Meh, they're under .500 this year.
    Still in playoff contention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I've been saying for two-plus seasons now that Howard is toast. Too many groin injuries.
    It's going to be great in a few years when Red Wings fans reminisce about Howie and how the Wings pi**ed themselves instead of giving him some defense and offense. (Ie: The ol' Osgood treatment).


    Quote Originally Posted by bronconick View Post
    Vegas fires Gallant and replaces him with DeBoer, who had been fired by San Jose earlier this year.

    What the what?
    I saw the news this afternoon and had the same reaction. I was like "Did the game against Buffalo end worse than the Wings game?" Checked the boxscore. Then became even more confused.

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    Still in playoff contention.
    with how the Pacific is right now, they coulda been up two points on the whole division by Sunday night. I'm very confused.

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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    The Wings are 12 points behind the rest of the league, and their absolute max is 97 points this season. If you're going to be bad, might as well be this bad.

    I'm not a fan of firing Blashill until April. However, if they can get Gallant, assuming he didn't do something absurd to warrant this canning, maybe this is the move to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    The Wings are 12 points behind the rest of the league, and their absolute max is 97 points this season. If you're going to be bad, might as well be this bad.

    I'm not a fan of firing Blashill until April. However, if they can get Gallant, assuming he didn't do something absurd to warrant this canning, maybe this is the move to make.
    My wife saw on The Athletic that there are rumblings about Stevie wanting Lane Lambert.

    Gallant's ties to the Red Wings makes him a very interesting potential choice (another long lost Wing coming home), and he seems to have turned his career around after the quick ego boost in the QMJHL. Starting from scratch (VKG) is a little easier (IMO) than trying to figure out which pieces to keep or move (ie: DET rebuild).


    I do agree that firing Blashill now is the wrong decision. Depending on how long the rebuild is, it might be easier to pay Blashill to just ride it out for another year or two than to hire someone just to take the fall, or for Gallant/Lambert/Whoever to struggle for three years if the rebuild stumbles. (Unless Gallant is going to be the fall guy for two/three years?)
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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    People are going to clamor for him all spring. Then in two years these same bowling alley blowhards are going to sit and ***** about how he's no good.....just like you're seeing now with Blashill. People couldn't wait to have him on the bench after Babcock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    People are going to clamor for him all spring. Then in two years these same bowling alley blowhards are going to sit and ***** about how he's no good.....just like you're seeing now with Blashill. People couldn't wait to have him on the bench after Babcock.
    Unfortunately we're all on the same page here. But... I don't think Joe Sixpack in Farmington Hills realizes Gallant's playing history.

    To be fair, I kinda only remembered myself and had to look up the years he was with the team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    People are going to clamor for him all spring. Then in two years these same bowling alley blowhards are going to sit and ***** about how he's no good.....just like you're seeing now with Blashill. People couldn't wait to have him on the bench after Babcock.
    I'm inclined to agree. First real step for Stevie Wonder starts in April, and it's two years of getting rid of bad contracts, and trying to draft well. Right now, this is pretty close to 85-86 redux. They'll still win more games than that team did, but only because of league parity and points welfare.

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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    I don't see where this team is any better than that 40-point debacle we had in the mid-80s.
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    Re: NHL 2019-20 #1: Where Toronto Plans To Win Without Playing Defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I'm inclined to agree. First real step for Stevie Wonder starts in April, and it's two years of getting rid of bad contracts, and trying to draft well.
    https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/redwings

    Taking a peek at the UFA's, these contracts are gone after this season:
    Green, Ericsson, Daley, Biega, and Howard. If we're rebuilding, thats.... an awful lot to lose on the backend (despite some of them being awful). That leaves Dekeyser, Nemeth, Bowey (who's an RFA) and Hronek. That's... asking a whole lot from the kids.

    Summer of 21 sees more "bad" contracts ending. But that's going to probably be the bottom of the curve before it gets better. I can see Howard, Ericsson, Green getting resigned for 20-21. Then they'll drop off the following year along with Helm, Flip, and Glendening.

    But that doesn't solve the disaster that is Justin Abdelkater.

    Mule's contracts is up after this year. Hank is the following year (and likely another LTIR in the meantime).


    There does look to be some good D men in Grand Rapids (Seider, Cholowski, Lindström) but the forward depth is thin, and goaltending depth is non-existant. Stevie's got his work cut out for him.
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