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  • Originally posted by Rover View Post
    Which is all well and good, I just don't understand the part about me not knowing ICE existed until two years ago. With a spouse who worked many years with foreign students I know more about ICE than I'd like to.
    Only Bernie Bros were woke enough to know about ICE prior to 2 years ago

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    • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

      Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.
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      • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.
        I'll note for the record that I didn't insult trix...
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        • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

          Yeah trix went Bizarro with that one.
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          • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

            Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
            Says the guy who didn’t know ICE existed until 2 years ago.
            Dude, I've been playing hockey since I was a kid. I've always known about ice.
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            • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              Yeah trix went Bizarro with that one.
              You'll have to excuse him. The Berngod has had a rough go of it lately.

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              • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                The best Court money can buy.
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                • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  The best Court money can buy.
                  Most transparent President ever. He's got nothing to hide*.

                  *nothing except various business dealings in Russia, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia that are not your concern and have nothing to do with his actions as POTUS

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                    • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                      Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                      Hey, Turtle Boy. Go **** yourself.
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                      • Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                        Marcy Wheeler is a treasure.
                        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                        • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          The best Court money can buy.
                          There are a couple comments that go into detail about what happened. Sounds like this may not be as bad as it sounds.

                          Emphasis not mine:

                          This is only an administrative stay. Nothing more.

                          As background and Not to lose sight of what a lot of folks – myself included – think will show that Trump was laundering $$$ for the Russians – explaining why everything he does seems to help out Putin… Two Federal Appellate Courts – the 2nd Circuit in NY, and the DC Circuit – have now upheld subpoenas to Trump’s accountants Mazers for eight years of his taxes. The NY case is by the NY AG, the DC case is by house oversight committee.

                          In NY, Trump agreed with the NY AG to “stay” the case (not demand the tax returns be turned over immediately), provided that Trump filed any petition for review in the US supreme Court w/I 10 days. That time ran last week and Trump had to file a “Petition for Certiorari” That will likely be considered by the Court in conference to see if they take the case on either December 13 or more likely January 10. It takes 4 votes to grant the petition to review the case.

                          In the DC case, Trump lost 2-1 (the one judge who supported him was appointed by him) then asked the full 11 member Court to review the decision, and he lost that 8-3 (the other Trump judges voted for him, as did a Bush Judge). There, Trump will not only had to petition for review, but he had to immediately ask the Supreme Court for a Stay to allow him to file a Cert. Petition. A stay takes 5 votes. The order on the stay request is what just came down.

                          I should note that some judges (Breyer in particular) will vote for stays as a “courtesy”, even if he will not vote to grant cert, so a stay being granted does not mean a lot. The reality is that the Court is balancing Trump’s claims vs a delay until either Dec 13 or Jan 10, and it’s hard to argue that the delay - to allow the full court to consider his cert petition is not necessary.

                          Assuming that the Supreme Court takes the case, we would see oral argument in April, decision by week of June 29 (last week the Court sits). If they deny cert, then his taxes are releases immediately.

                          The opinion in the NY case is here: https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...e-20191104.pdf 1
                          DC Opinion is here: https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/20C16C3C5721030C85258490004DE33C/$file/19-5142-1810450.pdf
                          The other one is a reply to the above. I trust unofan will be able to tell us if this is accurate or not...
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            The best Court money can buy.
                            Meh. Standard procedure to hold things at the status quo until the court decides whether to grant cert or not.

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                              Originally posted by unofan View Post
                              Meh. Standard procedure to hold things at the status quo until the court decides whether to grant cert or not.
                              OK, I'll stand down.* I trust you.

                              * For now.
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                              • Re: SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

                                Makes total sense in a case like this. If they don’t issue the stay while the case is pending, then the records would have to be released right away. After that, they can’t very well go back in 6 months and un-ring the bell. Issuing the stay is the only way to keep their options open until they actually hear the case.
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