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    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    yes but it's more a function of money spent on the program than it is on the coaches. New coach, same money equals same result in a lot of cases. witness UAA x3.
    At some level, I agree.

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    I'm curious what the plan is?????
    Did you get an invite to the bus league?
    Another league?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seawolf Fan View Post
    I'm curious what the plan is?????
    Did you get an invite to the bus league?
    Another league?
    It's to not be in debt to the WCHA when it blows up.

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    It's to not be in debt to the WCHA when it blows up.

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    UAA and UAF should probably withdraw as well then.
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    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

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    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    UAA and UAF should probably withdraw as well then.
    I wonder if UAA and UAF have considered that. Not that the WCHA would really be in a position to exact early-exit fees, but if the league does somehow find a way to stay intact in the next two years, they can always rescind the withdrawal.

    Man, if I knew UAH's decision would have generated this much talk I should have written up something. But I maintain that overall, it doesn't really change anything in terms of UAH's future or the WCHA's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UAHStatman View Post
    I wonder if UAA and UAF have considered that. Not that the WCHA would really be in a position to exact early-exit fees, but if the league does somehow find a way to stay intact in the next two years, they can always rescind the withdrawal.

    Man, if I knew UAH's decision would have generated this much talk I should have written up something. But I maintain that overall, it doesn't really change anything in terms of UAH's future or the WCHA's.
    They are just protecting themselves and hedging their bets.
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    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    UAH is D-I's lone winless team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    UAH is D-I's lone winless team.

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    Been there as a fan - feel for ya.
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    UAH is D-I's lone winless team.

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    There is the RPI women's team, although they do have a tie.

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    Fire Mike Corbett. I love the guy, but this program is performing worse, results-wise, than they did a season after folding the program during the season before bringing it back. Yes, EJ Brophy did his dead-level best to kill the program, but UAH has fared better with worse talent, even under Corbett. I have alumni complain to me about schemes. I have boosters telling me that they don't know where the program is headed.

    UAH needs a change. I don't think that doing it during the season is worthwhile or merited, but ... good Lord, UAH needs a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    Fire Mike Corbett. I love the guy, but this program is performing worse, results-wise, than they did a season after folding the program during the season before bringing it back. Yes, EJ Brophy did his dead-level best to kill the program, but UAH has fared better with worse talent, even under Corbett. I have alumni complain to me about schemes. I have boosters telling me that they don't know where the program is headed.

    UAH needs a change. I don't think that doing it during the season is worthwhile or merited, but ... good Lord, UAH needs a change.

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    After last year I thought Corbett was turning it around. Sigh.
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    I can't watch it any longer, don't sit in the press box/volunteer, and will not be donating any money either. The turnovers are unbecoming, fundamentals non-existent, and there is little hint of goal scoring. Recruiting has been terrible. New rink or not, how are we out-recruited by Army, Holy Cross, pick anyone else. Corbett is not the only one who needs to go, there is another common denominator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    UAH is D-I's lone winless team.

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    As much as I want to come in here and say something witty, I just can't kick y'alls when you are down...... Please get better so this rivalry will be fun again!

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    Re: UAH Hockey 2019-20

    Iím looking forward to heading down to Huntsville for the series this weekend. Besides the Space and Rocket Center, what are some other cant-miss items to put on my itinerary? Iím definitely going to squeeze in a bit of golf if I can as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potternmu View Post
    I’m looking forward to heading down to Huntsville for the series this weekend. Besides the Space and Rocket Center, what are some other cant-miss items to put on my itinerary? I’m definitely going to squeeze in a bit of golf if I can as well.
    Sorry, I had family in town or I would've met up with you and gotten you a personal NASA tour.

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    Sorry, I had family in town or I would've met up with you and gotten you a personal NASA tour.

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    No worries - I found plenty to do!

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    I hope that these aren't the program parameters that the school expects the boosters to support going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    I hope that these aren't the program parameters that the school expects the boosters to support going forward.

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    What did I miss?
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    HEA: UMass, Notre Dame
    NCHC: UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
    WCHA: UAH, BSU, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose97 View Post
    What did I miss?
    UAH is now 1-19-4 and picked up just the one point in Anchorage. They're eleven league points out of 8th (UAA has the tiebreaker) with ten games left.

    They finish with Michigan Tech and Alaska, at Lake Superior and Minnesota State, and with Bowling Green. I don't think that there are 11 points there. I'm not even sure that there are seven points to pass Ferris State to get into 9th spot.

    After a run of two seasons where they won 30% of their games, they've won nine games in two seasons. The Chargers have sustained 20+ losses in 15 seasons: two in 1989-90 and 1990-91 (UAH's first independent D-I experience) and all but one season since 2006-07 (UAH's season in 2009-10 that included just 29 regular season contests).

    We face a conundrum, the same that we did in the fall of 2012: does the school support the program when the backing of the boosters is uncertain, and do the backers support the program when the backing of the school is uncertain?

    https://www.uscho.com/stats/history/...key/2019-2020/ — would you want that team in your conference? Northern Michigan, the lone victim of the Chargers this year, might inform you that, nay, you might not.

    I just don't want for September to come around and the boosters to be getting emails about donations for the umpteenth locker room renovation while the coaches work with bare bones budgets for salary, travel, and especially recruiting travel. I hope that EJ Brophy didn't try to wreck every varsity athletic program at UAH like he did to hockey.

    Our coaches deserve better.
    Our players deserve better.
    Our boosters deserve betting.
    The fans deserve better.
    The townies and curious bystanders deserve better.

    My optimism from 2014 is nearly gone. https://uahhockey.com/blog/2014/01/11...-dame-5-uah-0/

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    UAH is now 1-19-4 and picked up just the one point in Anchorage. They're eleven league points out of 8th (UAA has the tiebreaker) with ten games left.

    They finish with Michigan Tech and Alaska, at Lake Superior and Minnesota State, and with Bowling Green. I don't think that there are 11 points there. I'm not even sure that there are seven points to pass Ferris State to get into 9th spot.

    After a run of two seasons where they won 30% of their games, they've won nine games in two seasons. The Chargers have sustained 20+ losses in 15 seasons: two in 1989-90 and 1990-91 (UAH's first independent D-I experience) and all but one season since 2006-07 (UAH's season in 2009-10 that included just 29 regular season contests).

    We face a conundrum, the same that we did in the fall of 2012: does the school support the program when the backing of the boosters is uncertain, and do the backers support the program when the backing of the school is uncertain?

    https://www.uscho.com/stats/history/...key/2019-2020/ ó would you want that team in your conference? Northern Michigan, the lone victim of the Chargers this year, might inform you that, nay, you might not.

    I just don't want for September to come around and the boosters to be getting emails about donations for the umpteenth locker room renovation while the coaches work with bare bones budgets for salary, travel, and especially recruiting travel. I hope that EJ Brophy didn't try to wreck every varsity athletic program at UAH like he did to hockey.

    Our coaches deserve better.
    Our players deserve better.
    Our boosters deserve betting.
    The fans deserve better.
    The townies and curious bystanders deserve better.

    My optimism from 2014 is nearly gone. https://uahhockey.com/blog/2014/01/11...-dame-5-uah-0/

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    Gotcha. I was picturing some demands from the University for donors. I don't blame you. UAH has shown zero institutional support for hockey in well over a decade. It's a real shame.
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    AHA:
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    ECAC:
    HEA: UMass, Notre Dame
    NCHC: UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
    WCHA: UAH, BSU, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU

    Inactive: BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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