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    Re: WCHA 2019-20 season: We Can Do Better Than Two Bids and a First Round Exit

    A 5-2 non-con weekend? That will get the job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
    A 5-2 non-con weekend? That will get the job done.
    It's actually 5-4, but still pretty good. Could have been 6-3 or 5-3-1 but Denver lucked out at the end with a win on Saturday.

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    This weekend will go a long way in setting the tone for our non-con results.

    - MSU should be able to take Arizona St.
    - NMU hopefully can take Sparty for both.
    - Bemidji has in-state St. Cloud. Probably SCSU, but it's early.
    - LSSU can hopefully take one from a travel wary Denver team

    And we also have a Cripple fight between UAA and Maine
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonsUpPuckDown View Post
    It's actually 5-4, but still pretty good. Could have been 6-3 or 5-3-1 but Denver lucked out at the end with a win on Saturday.
    Yeah, sorry. I go to bed early! I missed the Alaska scores.

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    I'm still so upset about the cowardly 7 that it's hard for me to root for the league as a whole.
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    Nice NC win FSU.

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    I think UAH's best bet at an NC win comes this weekend. Here's hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    I think UAH's best bet at an NC win comes this weekend. Here's hoping.

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    I think UAH's best bet at an NC win comes this weekend. Here's hoping.
    Sorry about that.

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    Dear BG, didn't you hope to play in the tournament again?
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    I have ZERO sympathy for Greg Powers. That happens to everyone, almost every game has those and if he thinks the WCHA is bad, I've got news for him..... so it's not just him and his team. I didn't see what Hastings said, but I'd be curious to hear.
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    I have ZERO sympathy for Greg Powers. That happens to everyone, almost every game has those and if he thinks the WCHA is bad, I've got news for him..... so it's not just him and his team. I didn't see what Hastings said, but I'd be curious to hear.
    What are you referring to?
    When ASU came to Mariucci last year they put on one of the most goonish displays I have seen in a looong time, so I was quite happy to see MSU wipe the floor with them.
    I think Arizona is going to find it a bit tougher going to start this season without an elite top-10-in-the-nation netminder saving their bacon.

    EDIT -ok, I read the ASU write-up of what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stauber1 View Post
    What are you referring to?
    When ASU came to Mariucci last year they put on one of the most goonish displays I have seen in a looong time, so I was quite happy to see MSU wipe the floor with them.
    I think Arizona is going to find it a bit tougher going to start this season without an elite top-10-in-the-nation netminder saving their bacon.
    Had a guy floor an msu player at mid ice. Looked like he left his feet and hit him in the head with an elbow. Powers didnt like they got called for a 5 minute. Game went from 1-1 to 3-1.

    Personally, I wasn't impressed with the way asu got chippy and whiny. Frankly, I thought the refs were patient more patient with them than they should have been. They were showing up the refs by slamming their sticks on the ice and against the boards when calls didnt go their way. They were taking dumb, chippy penalties because they were frustrated. They just struck me as a immature team that let themselves get taken out of the game when it didnt go their way.

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    They started running Gophers left and right once MN went up by two or three last year. Caused a couple injuries. Their clown of a coach whined about the same bull after each game, and their trash Twitter account referred to the injured players (one of which sustained a session-ending injury) as flopping fish. They're a garbage program that's toast without Daccord and I'm happy to watch them fail.

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    Klosowski is consistently one of the better referees in the conference. Which isnt saying much, granted. But he gets most things right it seems. ASU did goon it up with us last year and I'm curious to see how the series goes this year when they come up north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    I have ZERO sympathy for Greg Powers. That happens to everyone, almost every game has those and if he thinks the WCHA is bad, I've got news for him..... so it's not just him and his team. I didn't see what Hastings said, but I'd be curious to hear.
    That team is an embarrassment. Horribly dirty, even aside from the egregious 5 minute penalty. Some of it was so pathetically goonish (the last power play goal came after one ASU clown crosschecked Sandelin 3 times in the back of the neck after the whistle and right in front of the ref) that the coach either has no control or is actively pushing this behavior. Since we donít have to play them, I hope we never do so again.
    Full disclosure: Iím an ASU grad. I canít imagine how angry other Mav fans are.
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    ...but the Mag7 would happily take them as the eighth team.
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    Well I wasn't actually referring to the goonish stuff per se. More I was referring to what Powers said. He complained about the reffing being inaccurate and too strict on him and a disgrace etc. My point is that every team gets 5 minute penalties called for things they don't view as all that bad. That's just how it is. You have to play thru it. You have to win despite the way the refs are calling it.

    And second, the refs do not have it out for a particular team. They do the best they can to call a fair game, but yes they make a lot of mistakes. In last night's Tech game they called a Tech player for spearing, which he most certainly did not do.

    My experience is that ECAC refs are way more strict and do a worse job than the WCHA by quite a bit.

    The whole ASU act is something else entirely.
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    2019-2020 WCHA Non-Conference Schedule
    -3 AHA Games 2-1-0
    -11-12 Big10 Games 1-1-0
    -5 ECAC Games 1-0-0
    -8 Hockey East Games 2-4-0
    -28-29 NCHC Games 1-7-2
    -6 Independent Games 2-0-0
    -0-2 Interleague games (not included in WCHA non-conference record)
    -4 Exhibitions (not included in WCHA or team record)
    TOTAL: 9-13-2 0.409 (72 possible games)

    ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-4-0)
    -at Mass-Lowell L 1-5, L 1-3
    -at Nebraska-Omaha L 1-6, L 0-5
    -at North Dakota (2)

    ALASKA (0-2-0)
    -Denver L 3-4, L 0-3
    -at Penn State (2)
    -Arizona State (2)
    ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (0-2-0)
    -at Maine L 1-7, L 1-2 (OT)
    -Nebraska-Omaha (2)
    -at Arizona State (2)

    BEMIDJI STATE (0-0-2)
    -St. Cloud State T 4-4, T 2-2
    -at North Dakota (2)
    -vs. Minnesota (Mariucci Classic, Minneapolis, MN)
    -vs. Minnesota State/St. Cloud State (Mariucci Classic, Minneapolis, MN)

    BOWLING GREEN (1-2-0)
    -at Miami W 7-4
    -vs. RIT (Icebreaker Tournament, Toledo, OH) L 2-3 (OT)
    -vs Western Michigan (Icebreaker Tournament, Toledo, OH) L 2-5
    -Western Michigan
    -at Western Michigan
    -Notre Dame
    -at Notre Dame
    -Miami

    FERRIS STATE (1-0-0)
    -Waterloo (EXH) T 2-2
    -USNTDP (EXH) W 5-0
    -Colgate W 3-1
    -at Miami (2)
    -Western Michigan
    -at Western Michigan
    -vs. Michigan (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)
    -vs. Michigan Tech/Michigan State (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)

    LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (2-2-0)
    -Merrimack W 6-2, W 4-3
    -Denver L 3-1, L 4-3
    -at Michigan (2)
    -at Notre Dame (2)

    MICHIGAN TECH (2-0-0)
    -at Robert Morris W 2-1 (OT), W 7-0
    -at North Dakota (Hall of Fame Game)
    -Clarkson (2)
    -vs. Michigan State (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)
    -vs. Ferris State/Michigan (Great Lakes Invitational, Detroit, MI)
    -at Arizona State (2)

    MINNESOTA STATE (2-0-0)
    -Mount Royal (EXH) W 5-2
    -Arizona State W 4-1, W 5-0
    -North Dakota (2)
    -at Minnesota-Duluth (2)
    -vs. St. Cloud State (Mariucci Classic, Minneapolis, MN)
    -vs. Bemidji State/Minnesota (Mariucci Classic, Minneapolis, MN)

    NORTHERN MICHIGAN (1-1-0)
    -at USNTDP (EXH) W 4-3
    -Michigan State L 3-5, W 2-0
    -at Boston University (2)
    -St. Cloud State (2)
    -at Cornell (2)
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    Re: WCHA 2019-20 season: We Can Do Better Than Two Bids and a First Round Exit

    Quote Originally Posted by manurespreader View Post
    Well I wasn't actually referring to the goonish stuff per se. More I was referring to what Powers said. He complained about the reffing being inaccurate and too strict on him and a disgrace etc. My point is that every team gets 5 minute penalties called for things they don't view as all that bad. That's just how it is. You have to play thru it. You have to win despite the way the refs are calling it.

    And second, the refs do not have it out for a particular team. They do the best they can to call a fair game, but yes they make a lot of mistakes. In last night's Tech game they called a Tech player for spearing, which he most certainly did not do.

    My experience is that ECAC refs are way more strict and do a worse job than the WCHA by quite a bit.

    The whole ASU act is something else entirely.
    Sorry, I misread your earlier comment. I was a little fired up! Finally heard Powers' comments yesterday, and then I got fired up again! To believe any call cost them the game is ludicrous. I was going to say ASU was clearly the second best team in the building both nights, but then I remembered there was a high school team there Saturday, so ASU was probably the third best team in the building that night. The shots were 44-14, and I'm not sure any of ASU's 14 shots were high quality. But if the coach is still focused on one (accurate) call against his team, then it makes sense that the players themselves couldn't get past it.

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