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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Ma#1ne Hky View Post
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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    Maine receives 24 votes and is ranked 25th in this week's poll. New Hampshire is ranked 23rd with 42 votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    Maine receives 24 votes and is ranked 25th in this week's poll. New Hampshire is ranked 23rd with 42 votes.
    And tied for third in Hockey East! We got ourselves a legit Big 4 match-up next weekend, lol...

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

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    And tied for third in Hockey East! We got ourselves a legit Big 4 match-up next weekend, lol...
    Now if we can fill the Alfond like old times and lift the roof off...in the old days Alfond Arena was the ACE in the hole for Maine...tough/tough place to play.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    If the football team wins out, they will be 7-5 and squarely on the bubble.

    How nice would it be to have an extra win over Bryant or Wagner or something, and not a loss to Liberty? 8-4 in the CAA is in. 7-5 is dicey. STOP SCHEDULING TWO FBS GAMES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    If the football team wins out, they will be 7-5 and squarely on the bubble.

    How nice would it be to have an extra win over Bryant or Wagner or something, and not a loss to Liberty? 8-4 in the CAA is in. 7-5 is dicey. STOP SCHEDULING TWO FBS GAMES.
    If we do that we canít afford to fly the field hockey out to have its game cancelled by fireworks.

    I think 7-5 will be seen as 7-3 vs D1AA and in. I think the UNH game will essentially be a play-in. Iím just glad Sacred Heartís a D1, if theyíd scheduled a D2 there theyíd be cooked with only 6 D1 wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox3066 View Post
    If we do that we canít afford to fly the field hockey out to have its game cancelled by fireworks.

    I think 7-5 will be seen as 7-3 vs D1AA and in. I think the UNH game will essentially be a play-in. Iím just glad Sacred Heartís a D1, if theyíd scheduled a D2 there theyíd be cooked with only 6 D1 wins
    I think it's more true to say "If we do that we can't afford to fly the field hockey team out to have its game cancelled by fireworks because the football team will be losing even more money.

    I stand by my position that if Maine can't afford football without being a bodybag twice in one season, Maine shouldn't be playing football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMC View Post
    I think it's more true to say "If we do that we can't afford to fly the field hockey team out to have its game cancelled by fireworks because the football team will be losing even more money.

    I stand by my position that if Maine can't afford football without being a bodybag twice in one season, Maine shouldn't be playing football.
    Maine couldve beaten Liberty with a defense like last years but I feel your pain. Theyíve done an ok job trying to make the second payday game a small conference, winnable one

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    Didn't football pocket around 1.3 million for those two FBS games..?

    I hear what AMC says in terms of W/L, but Bosox is correct in saying that the FCS selection process reliably ignores FBS losses. (And Maine has won a few FCS games, too... Not exactly sacrificial lambs in that regard.)

    Bottom-line: I'd have to guess that football has/will make more than hockey this season, and it still is breathing.

    (Calling Mr. Pickett... )
    Last edited by Fishman'81; 11-12-2019 at 09:18 PM.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    I'd have to guess that football has/will make more than hockey this season.

    (Calling Mr. Pickett... )
    You'd be wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    I recall reading about Maine's athletic spending back in the spring in the previous thread. Therefore I created a spreadsheet with all of Maine's NCAA financial information for 2010-18 and posted the link. Since it is being brought up again I thought I would repost the link. The football program has brought in between 250 thousand (2011) and 725 thousand (2016) in guarantees, but the guarantees have only accounted for 10-17% of reported revenue. Furthermore, while football has shown an overall profit for 2016-18 that is due to an increase in direct institutional support of over $1 million per year compared to 2010-15. When institutional support is not counted as revenue the football team has lost between $2.6 and $3 million per year. In fact, no sports team as had an earned profit for for any year and the athletic department has had an earned loss between $9.8 million (2010) and $14.5 million (2018) each year which has been covered by institutional support.

    Sean
    Even if you are correct that the school got $1.3M for the two games (which I don't think is accurate) the football program will still be a $2 million black hole. Even with the depressed ticket sales, hockey should still "only" lose a fraction of that. Depending on how Hockey East divides the TV money from NESN and CBS Sports, hockey may actually be in the black this season if ticket sales pick up.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    If Maine doesnít have football, what do they do to meet Title IX compliance in the scholarship department? Cut 63 womenís scholarships? Add menís sports? Do the alternatives for football lose more money than football already does? What about the income that comes from tuition and fees from the 30+ football players not on scholarship?

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

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    If Maine doesnít have football, what do they do to meet Title IX compliance in the scholarship department? Cut 63 womenís scholarships? Add menís sports?
    Lacrosse.

    Do the alternatives for football lose more money than football already does?
    No.

    What about the income that comes from tuition and fees from the 30+ football players not on scholarship?
    That's what? $500,000? Assuming they don't get ANY financial assistance from the university (yeah, right) then we can factor that into the $2-3 million the university would save by not having football.

    Also, are you assuming that those 30 spots in the student body will NOT be filled by 30 other students who will also pay about $500,000? Those spots will just go empty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    Lacrosse.


    No.


    That's what? $500,000? Assuming they don't get ANY financial assistance from the university (yeah, right) then we can factor that into the $2-3 million the university would save by not having football.

    Also, are you assuming that those 30 spots in the student body will NOT be filled by 30 other students who will also pay about $500,000? Those spots will just go empty?
    There's also no men's soccer team at UMO, for example. That could be a spot to start to make up some of the damage if football ever went away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amkirby10 View Post
    There's also no men's soccer team at UMO, for example. That could be a spot to start to make up some of the damage if football ever went away.
    I also don't think men's swimming or track and field are anywhere near the scholarship caps.

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    Re: Maine Black Bears 2019-20: Seeing Red

    Anyone know if there's a web site or forum to sell or buy Maine hockey tickets on?
    Other than the official site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    Anyone know if there's a web site or forum to sell or buy Maine hockey tickets on?
    Other than the official site.
    You probably could sell them on Stubhub or Craigslist, but I think here or Facebook would be your best bet. Maine has been bad for so long that there isnít really much of a secondary market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthMike View Post
    Anyone know if there's a web site or forum to sell or buy Maine hockey tickets on?
    Other than the official site.
    Check Uncle Henrys swap/sell book, out on Thursdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    You probably could sell them on Stubhub or Craigslist, but I think here or Facebook would be your best bet. Maine has been bad for so long that there isnít really much of a secondary market.
    Yup.
    I gotta think some season tick holders wouldn't mind selling a few games, at a low price.😁

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