Hard to find words to describe this weekend. I mean losing both of these games was for sure a possibility and probably likely but 12-0? I figured Maine was at least going to have 1 line that looked like division 1 hockey players (Tralmaks Doherty Fossier) but even they looked lost out there.
It's going to be a long long season, perhaps that's what is needed to have a change behind the bench. I worry that the damage that has been done is too much. We're 7 years removed from our last tournament birth and the same amount removed from our last trip to the garden. People clamored for Whitehead to be fired (and it was justified) but people seem to be giving Red more slack. We fired Whitehead a year after we made it to the tournament, 3 or of his last 4 seasons were above .500 and his last recruiting class included 3 guys who played NHL games (Shore, Hutton, Lomberg). Whitehead at least was able to recruit talent. It always seemed like they underachieved though. I think Guite and Alfie are doing their best but I think getting players to play for an emotionless, disconnected dinosaur is a tough draw. I don't remember the last player on Maine who was confident carrying the puck through the neutral zone, Red has these players dump the puck the second cross the red line and then come off for a line change.
We see Red continually lose talent because he wants players to rot away in Juniors when they could provide scoring now. I hate calling out the players but these guys genuinely don't look like division 1 talent. Guite and Alfie have found some under-recruited diamonds, Keeper, Fossier, Tralmaks but it's not even close to enough.
Still gonna buy tickets, watch and listen to every game but it's painful watching lately. Last years team underachieved and this year's team just doesn't look capable of accomplishing anything. It's really a shame because the fans really still want to support the team but administration lacks the backbone to fire a coach and put a decent product on the ice. I hear people say it is the facilities but we know that's BS, the Alfond still rocks and this is one of the only schools in the country where the players are rockstars. Most schools can't just create that.
I know we're two games in but I think fans are justifiable in sounding the alarms. It's not even about the results, it's about the way we played the game.
You are right, the fans want to support this program and the boys. But I donít think anyone wants Red behind the bench now. Even optimists donít.
The USCHO poll was released today. Inexplicably, Maine did not get a single vote.
From USCHO's Tuesday Morning Quarterback column:
Who, who are these people?If any concerns should come out of that game, it is for the Black Bears that many thought would take a step forward this year.
There are more apologists (for Red and even more-so for the UM athletic dept.) out there than there are people calling for change. It is what it is.....a constant revolving door of UM Presidents & ADs is just as responsible as UMaine's financial woes. I bet 50% of the hardcore UM Hockey fans from the Shawn Walsh era are now dead....or bedridden in area nursing homes. The rest of us are becoming numb to it all.
Football & basketball are the new "it" sports at UM........hockey has shed most of casual fan base.....and they ain't coming back. Times change.
At what point do you think that Hockey East re-thinks adding a 12th team to the League...and instead ask Maine to leave...so they could have a 10 team League..?..? Oh I am just kidding......
If you have to whore yourself out for two FBS games per year, which hamstrings your ability to make the playoffs AND still fund the program at or near the bottom of your conference, you aren't a growth industry.
In any event, not accomplished. Didn't he also say if he couldn't get it done, he'd leave?
Football has clearly been the flagship for a few years now, and accepting a payday from FBS schools seems to be a financial necessity. We've been over this before.
Hockey is very clearly going nowhere under Red. No idea what your argument would be at this juncture, vis-a-vis any other Maine program.
Yeah, beating Richmond is paramount, as is coming close to to running the CAA schedule. But, hockey appears to have zero chance at the PS, while football has a prayer. No secret there.
Last edited by Fishman'81; 10-08-2019 at 10:41 PM.
I can't escape the stupid. I was wearing my Maine hockey jersey at work tonight and a guy walks up and tells me it was a long weekend for the Bears. "Yeah, it's going to be a long season."
'Think there's any chance they hire the coach who went to Denver?'
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