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    Ford vs. Ferrari was pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Ford vs. Ferrari was pretty good.
    That is good to hear. I will be patient and wait for it on Netflix, but I do look forward to this movie.
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    Honestly, I would recommend it for the big screen if you can swing it. Unless you've got a home theater setup to recreate the sound experience. The racing sequences are pretty incredible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Honestly, I would recommend it for the big screen if you can swing it. Unless you've got a home theater setup to recreate the sound experience. The racing sequences are pretty incredible.
    I didn't think of that (racing sound/etc). And....gonna guess that this movie won't bring in blockbuster crowds (which means less annoying patrons)...might do that. Catch an early showing someplace on a day off.....
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    Honestly, I would recommend it for the big screen if you can swing it. Unless you've got a home theater setup to recreate the sound experience. The racing sequences are pretty incredible.
    I am seeing it tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Ford vs. Ferrari was pretty good.
    Pretty good, yes. Not great. And while they had to compress and dramatize much of the story to fit into a long movie- some of it was just bad and misleading. Mostly the portrayal of Beebe. The way the Duce was shown was bad, too. But when Ford Motor Company should have wanted to support a movie about one of it's most iconic projects, there's a good reason they were not part of the movie. Not too cool.

    OTOH, watching it in IMAX was pretty impressive. Just wished more of the real engine sounds were used- as they were glorious (and they did use them, some).

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    Pretty good, yes. Not great. And while they had to compress and dramatize much of the story to fit into a long movie- some of it was just bad and misleading. Mostly the portrayal of Beebe. The way the Duce was shown was bad, too. But when Ford Motor Company should have wanted to support a movie about one of it's most iconic projects, there's a good reason they were not part of the movie. Not too cool.

    OTOH, watching it in IMAX was pretty impressive. Just wished more of the real engine sounds were used- as they were glorious (and they did use them, some).
    I guessed that they probably wouldn't paint a picture of Beebe or Ford in a kind light. I read the book on which the movie is based back when it came out (Go Like Hell). At the time, as I was reading the physical description of Beebe, the only person I could think of was Martin Ferrero from Jurassic Park (the lawyer). It wasn't a pretty picture.

    I still want to see the movie, though, because I really liked the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    Pretty good, yes. Not great. And while they had to compress and dramatize much of the story to fit into a long movie- some of it was just bad and misleading. Mostly the portrayal of Beebe. The way the Duce was shown was bad, too. But when Ford Motor Company should have wanted to support a movie about one of it's most iconic projects, there's a good reason they were not part of the movie. Not too cool.

    OTOH, watching it in IMAX was pretty impressive. Just wished more of the real engine sounds were used- as they were glorious (and they did use them, some).
    I know nothing about Beebe, and the feud between him and Shelby/Miles seemed dramatized to me, but I thought the portrayal of Henry II wasn't that far off the mark. By all accounts, he was a stubborn and could be a ***** to work for. If anything, the comment about Bond being a "degenerate" seemed kind of pot-kettle, given his playboy reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    I guessed that they probably wouldn't paint a picture of Beebe or Ford in a kind light. I read the book on which the movie is based back when it came out (Go Like Hell). At the time, as I was reading the physical description of Beebe, the only person I could think of was Martin Ferrero from Jurassic Park (the lawyer). It wasn't a pretty picture.

    I still want to see the movie, though, because I really liked the book.
    Beebe wasn't a bad guy, and in a later interview, he was interested in the cars slowing down to not take each other out. He did a lot of good at Ford, and there wasn't a conflict between him and Miles. I liked the book, a lot, too. Nobody is perfect, but they were not that huge of jerks, either. A big one is that Beebe could have never done what he did in the movie, as it didn't happen that way.

    Makes for a good story, but it is a little misleading. Or a lot, in the case of Beebe. When you see the movie, you will understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I know nothing about Beebe, and the feud between him and Shelby/Miles seemed dramatized to me, but I thought the portrayal of Henry II wasn't that far off the mark. By all accounts, he was a stubborn and could be a ***** to work for. If anything, the comment about Bond being a "degenerate" seemed kind of pot-kettle, given his playboy reputation.
    Shelby was more an opportunist than a visionary. And sometimes a not a good person. So the same amount that he looked like a hero, the Duce looked like a greedy, authoritarian, bastard. The Duce was not a nice person, no question.

    As for Beebe- he worked for Iaccoca, not the other way around.

    Anyway, if one can overlook that the big corporate overlords were not bad people- which is what the movie suggests, it's a good movie. And fun.

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    Everyone loves the movie Miracle even though they made it seem like Lou Nanne was against the idea of Herb Brooks' system. (which of course makes zero sense) Movies take dramatic license it is nothing new.
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    Miracle is great.

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    Miracle is great.

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    You only say that because you didn't grow up playing on the pond or with a pick-up group of adults. A lot of their interactions hold very true.
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    You only say that because you didn't grow up playing on the pond or with a pick-up group of adults. A lot of their interactions hold very true.
    I actually did play pond hockey, although it was with kids. NY freezes too. Or anyway it used to.

    The hockey parts of Mystery aren't what suck. It's that it's a lame Lifetime Precious Moments movie masquerading as a hockey movie.
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    Ford v. Ferrari: Bale and Damon were great in this. Loved how they played off each other. The movie was also shot very well. Seeing it in IMAX was a nice treat.

    I just couldn't get into the story due to being a race fan and being familiar with how things went down in real life. I know 95% of people that see this movie won't notice the stadium style lights being used for a race in the 1960's or that if your rear brake disks are glowing as bright as your fronts you have major problems going on with your car . It's a Hollywood Sports Movie, so it is what it is....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I actually did play pond hockey, although it was with kids. NY freezes too. Or anyway it used to.

    The hockey parts of Mystery aren't what suck. It's that it's a lame Lifetime Precious Moments movie masquerading as a hockey movie.
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    Joker sequel and more. Oh so much more.

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    Joker sequel and more. Oh so much more.

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    Yeah Luther is the one most of the comic fans want.
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