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  • #91
    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Now imagine we just elect the president by popular vote, full stop.
    HA! Can you imagine? That's just what we need. Imagine a civilized country just letting the MOB of COMMON RABBLE go out and vote for someone like... like...

    wait
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    • #92
      Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

      Big for legibility:

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Now imagine we just elect the president by popular vote, full stop.
        If that happens, the hegemony of the coasts would be complete. You'd like that. I wouldn't.
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        • #94
          Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

          Originally posted by bronconick View Post
          In case you thought the Electoral College couldn't get any worse

          TL: dr- Electors can pick whoever they want and ignore the popular vote in their state.
          It's been that way since Day 1 of the Constitution. I don't know why this is a surprise to anybody who's gone beyond high school social studies.
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          • #95
            Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
            It's been that way since Day 1 of the Constitution. I don't know why this is a surprise to anybody who's gone beyond high school social studies.
            There's a difference IINM. Previously states passed laws to prevent faithless electors and this was considered within their power. If I'm reading this right states can't control their own electors.

            So if Bezos bribes 270 electors he's president without getting one vote.
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            • #96
              Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post

              So if Bezos bribes 270 electors he's president without getting one vote.
              So, basically the DNC primary process?
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              • #97
                Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                So, basically the DNC primary process?
                I thought we weren't going to talk about DWS anymore?
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  There's a difference IINM. Previously states passed laws to prevent faithless electors and this was considered within their power. If I'm reading this right states can't control their own electors.

                  So if Bezos bribes 270 electors he's president without getting one vote.
                  No I learned about the Electors having at least some freedom back when I was in school.
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                  • #99
                    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    No I learned about the Electors having at least some freedom back when I was in school.
                    Yes, what we learned in grammar school was they always had the freedom to be faithless.

                    Then states started taking that away.

                    But now it seems that faithless elector laws are unconstitutional, so electors are unconstrained again.

                    That's bad. But rather than Amend to prevent faithless electors I favor Amending to get rid of the EC* entirely. We have outgrown it. And the one time it would have been useful, to prevent Dump, it wasn't used. It serves no purpose anymore except as a barrier to democracy.

                    uno, am I doing this wrong?

                    * To be fair I also favor getting rid of the Senate so I should probably not be listened to.
                    Last edited by Kepler; 08-22-2019, 10:18 AM.
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                    • #100
                      Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      That's bad. But rather than Amend to prevent faithless electors I favor Amending to get rid of the EC* entirely.
                      But then you could win the presidency by just winning NY and LA!!!!1!!!!!

                      Why no, I don't understand how math works. Why do you ask?

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                      • #101
                        Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

                        Econ major doesn't know how bond sales work: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...20903725723648

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                        Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
                        iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
                        gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
                        Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
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                        • #102
                          Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

                          The best people: https://news.avclub.com/the-u-s-amba...cke-1837473913

                          Ambassador Carla Sands’ background would likely have been overlooked as yet another insane thread in the grotesque Trump tapestry, were it not the fact that she’s now in charge of picking up the pieces after our President threw yet another tantrum, this time about not being able to purchase Greenland from the Danish. (The mere act of writing that last sentence almost certainly took a year off our lives). So what was Sands’ CV prior to serving as the official envoy to Denmark? Knowing this administration, we’re pretty confident it wouldn’t be quite applicable to the role of Danish ambassador, but surely some twisted logic could be followed to explain how they appointed her to the position.

                          Well, per a simple investigation published today, Sands is none other than a climate change-denying, conspiracy theory-retweeting ex-actress whose credits include a handful of The Bold and the Beautiful episodes, as well as Death Stalker And The Warriors From Hell, a film so bad it was lampooned in a seventh-season episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.

                          Sands’ whole deal, apart from Death Stalker, is more in line with what we’ve come to expect—widow to a multimillionaire real estate mogul, longtime hobnobber within California conservative politics, and possessor of a complete lack of ambassadorial experience apart from being nice to her clients at her chiropractic office (she’s also an ex-chiropractor).

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            You've always been there. Nothing has changed since 1824.

                            Now imagine you vote directly for an elector rather than a candidate that has an elector pledged to him/her?

                            Let's say you're pro life and pro universal healthcare. You would separately vote for the pro life elector and the healthcare elector. Then they would cast their vote for the candidate who best represents their view for POTUS and VPOTUS.

                            It could be conceivable that opposite parties receive a majority vote for POTUS & VPOTUS.

                            Oops - nobody got 270 EVs? Off to the House and/or Senate to see who wins.

                            It may (MAY) drive everyone back towards the center or we may (MAY) end up with splinters. It would definitely change the way campaigns are run.

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                              Econ major doesn't know how bond sales work: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...20903725723648
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                              • #105
                                Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

                                Remember when Obama slurred his words, attacked Jews and insulted our allies in the same day?

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