POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

[mookie1995]

USCIS confirms: As of October 29, children born to U.S. service members outside of the U.S. will no longer be automatically considered citizens.

Their parents will have to apply for citizenship on their behalf. https://t.co/beDHdMgqSM

— Haley Britzky (@halbritz) August 28, 2019

Why just services?

[mookie1995]

So with the clarification the rule is a white child is automatically a citizen but an adopted brown one isn't. That makes sense given the "morality" of this administration and its voters.

*whew*

[dxmnkd316]

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Armed services were granted the exception that they were considered residing in the US while deployed. It only applies if both parents are not in the US.

So if one is a citizen and residing in the US, they are still granted an exception. As I read it.

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

*whew*

Status of yellows unknown

[aparch]

But nope, not a Russian puppet.

#Russia's state TV describes the news of Trump ordering a review/freeze of U.S. financial, military assistance to #Ukraine as "sensational," host Olga Skabeeva excitedly predicts that the news will make a Ukrainian guest cry, mockingly says, "This is so sad and tragic for you." pic.twitter.com/PK3JhuSh0l

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) August 29, 2019

[rufus]

Armed services were granted the exception that they were considered residing in the US while deployed. It only applies if both parents are not in the US.

So if one is a citizen and residing in the US, they are still granted an exception. As I read it.

Are not military bases overseas considered American soil?

[dxmnkd316]

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Not anymore

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

Are not military bases overseas considered American soil?

No, they are not.

Many parents of children born abroad want to know if their children are U.S. citizens. The U.S. grants citizenship in one of three ways: naturalization, in which someone becomes a U.S. citizen sometime after birth; birth on U.S. soil; or birth to parents who are U.S. citizens. Contrary to popular belief, military bases are not considered "U.S. soil" for citizenship purposes. Therefore, the only way children born abroad can acquire citizenship at birth is through their parents.

If it was the contrary a foreign woman could give birth on a base and create a US citizen.

[Kepler]

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Not anymore

They sort of never were.

The updated policy directly impacts US government employees and service members, many of whom are temporarily assigned to posts overseas for extended periods. The policy says children living abroad with a parent who is a US government employee or US service member will not be considered to be " 'residing in the United States' for purposes of acquiring citizenship" under a section of immigration law.

Previously, their children would be considered to be both living in and outside of the US for purposes of eventually gaining citizenship. By stripping the children of the former, the only way they can get citizenship is through a parent applying for them, whereas before it would've been automatic provided they meet certain requirements, said Cristobal Ramon, senior policy analyst at the Bipartisan Policy Center.

USCIS says the policy could affect children of lawful permanent residents who naturalized after a child's birth.

The agency cited conflicts with the definition of "residence" in immigration law, as well as conflicts with State Department guidance, as reason for the change, according to the guidance.

I read someplace that last year it would have affected 100 children. The parents can still file for the child's citizenship running through the fact that they are naturalized citizens.

The question is: why do this? Is it just another in this administration's series of highly public dick moves to demonstrate to their hateful moron voters the only people they consider real citizens are white Christian Dumpy males? Because that's sure how it comes across.

[dxmnkd316]

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For any other admin, this would just be viewed as clarifying language and streamlining the laws. Simply it and make it fair.

But with this admin, you have to view every move as malicious and prove it isn’t.

[Kepler]

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For any other admin, this would just be viewed as clarifying language and streamlining the laws. Simply it and make it fair.

But with this admin, you have to view every move as malicious and prove it isn’t.

They have earned the scrutiny. When Nazis update a throw rug you should ask questions.

[leswp1]

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Has anyone seen what prompted them to perpetrate this fiasco? I can find coverage from all sorts of sources but nothing on what made them want to say stuff that should p1ss off one of the populations that have some happy feeling about the Admin (they like he is funding their budget- altho he is cutting that as well)

[French Rage]

Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

Has anyone seen what prompted them to perpetrate this fiasco? I can find coverage from all sorts of sources but nothing on what made them want to say stuff that should p1ss off one of the populations that have some happy feeling about the Admin (they like he is funding their budget- altho he is cutting that as well)

"The cruelty is the point." Gotta show some farmers losing their farms that someone else has it worse.

[Kepler]

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"The cruelty is the point." Gotta show some farmers losing their farms that someone else has it worse.

This.

Southern planters after the Civil War kept their white sharecroppers in line by stoking racism and creating the KKK. Divide and conquer. Always give your wage slaves somebody to kick and look down on. That's how the reactionary mind functions.

[Kepler]

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Hey, who got Nazis in my Nazis?