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    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    There it is again. They're not all the same. Stop lying like Trump.
    Ok, you get to go join The Little Ball Of Hate in the club that doesn't want to have a true discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    Ok, you get to go join The Little Ball Of Hate in the club that doesn't want to have a true discussion.
    Every time I try you both sides it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Every time I try you both sides it.
    How many times have I heard: Well the Rs did it, why can't the Ds? Sounds like "both sides" to me. But keep on being you. I thought the Ds were better. Most are, some are not. (Hence why I like Amy K, she is not stooping to the Rs level, as of this moment).
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    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Well seeing as Ford is part of that deal that should go over REAL well in Michigan...
    Downriver is Trump Country. Everything south of the Ford River Rouge plant might as well be Ohio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    But yeah I am presenting things from the Republican point of view. Where do you come up with this crap...
    I should just start showing rufus' and Scooby's posts to people who tell me I have anger issues.
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    Good article about bad person.
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    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Good article about bad person.
    Holy ****. This is good.
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    Even as recently as, say, 15 or 20 years ago, the typical person didnít read the New York Times regularly, and certainly didnít read the opinion section regularly. And yet, you probably knew, through osmosis or whatever, that it was the paper of record, written by elites, with its opinion section being the most exclusive opinion real estate in the world, and so assumed that anyone who wrote a column for the New York Times was a smart person with important things to say whose opinion was worth respecting, if not holding up in reverence (and if you caught a snippet of a NYT opinion piece, it probably had enough of the trappings of intellectual discourse to affirm that sentiment). For those that did regularly read the NYT, the opinion section smelled enough like their own farts that even if they disagreed with the content they would affirm it reflexively as a serious, well-considered opinion. And even for those that disdained a column in the NYT, there was no way to make that disdain apparent, either to the writer in a way that the writer would have to see or deliberately ignore, or with a large enough platform such that the disdain would be inescapable.

    Now, anyone can read any NYT column, and recognize that many are drivel, poorly written and poorly reasoned, and often with heavy doses of various forms of bigotry thrown in. And everyone can make their disdain readily known. So to be a NYT columnist was once a mark of unquestionable distinction deserving of extraordinary deference, by assumption on the part of most people. But now it just means that your ****ty essays receive extensive, actual scrutiny by everyone, including people with no vested interest in telling you how great you are, and these privileged *******s canít handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aparch View Post
    I might be wrong, but I believe the California standard also matches standards in Canada, Mexico, and some Far East nations. Essentially, wherever NAFTA cars are shipped.

    Forcing automakers to walk back standards for US vehicles would fracture the market radically.

    We'd be left with entry level trucks (150/1500's made in Michigan) and whatever VW and Audi has parked at the Old Silverdome parking lot that would meet Trump's lowered bar.
    Doesnt it seem sometimes like Trump is daring the people who voted for him not to vote for him in 2020. Outside of Evangelicals and NRA Fellators no one is safe. He puts in tariffs that kill the businesses of the farmers who support him, he attacks immigration so hard it is killing business that rely on migrant workers, he has put in initiatives that have not only not helped the rust belt but has actually hurt them, he is fighting corporations and preventing states from acting with any sovereignty...I mean it is almost like he is trying to prove to the world he can literally **** on everyone who loves him and they will still bow before him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    It's the 'Republican' narrative, cause all you worry about are the consequences to Democrats should they impeach. That's what the Republicans push, that impeaching will hold disastrous consequences for the Democrats.

    What if not impeaching is even more disastrous to the fortunes of the Democrats? You don't come at it from that angle, don't even consider it as a possibility. I know Rube doesn't. What if it's politically more advantageous for the Dems to impeach?

    No one knows the answer. No one will know unless they actually impeach. So you want him impeached. So does Rube, or at least he says. But everyone's so afraid of actually doing it. Cause it may not be popular. It may not work. People may not like you as a result. Not cause its the right thing to do. The necessary thing to do

    Today's Democrats in a nutshell.
    Wrong. I care about the consequences to THE FRIGGIN PEOPLE! Since the Democrats are the ones fighting for the people I want them to succeed but make no mistake my loyalty is with "We the People" not any one party. That is why I support Impeachment which you seem to continue to ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I should just start showing rufus' and Scooby's posts to people who tell me I have anger issues.
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    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    This was from a few pages back, but two things caught my attention:

    Quote Originally Posted by leswp1 View Post
    You aren't going to flip a single Neanderthal to vote against the Cheeto. Period.
    First, this part shouldn't even matter. The people that are going to be swayed aren't the one's still in the 35%. It's the ones who are slightly/somewhat disgusted by what Trump has done, and/or the ones who don't pay enough attention to the news to get all of the details.

    The second part is where Dems can take advantage of great timing and a lot of people in that latter group being idiots/uninterested (but still vote):

    The vast majority of Americans seem ignorant of the 2 step process. Feeling righteous that he is impeached might be enough for some and give a false sense that something has changed. Nixon was impeached and left. A lot of people had no idea Clinton could stay when he was impeached. When the Rump isn't ousted people are going to be shocked and view it as inept.
    Impeachment is guaranteed in the house, but will never pass in the senate. However, there's a lot of dumb voters who could see the news from the house vote and assume it's a huge negative for Trump. That's when Dems need to hit the hardest with the news cycle. Get those voters who aren't paying a lot of attention to see that Trump was impeached before the rest of the process plays out in the senate.

    Time it so that vote comes mid-to-late summer 2020 and that's a pretty ****ing effect for Trump heading into the debates.

    But most importantly, impeachment is the right thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cF[Authentic] View Post
    This was from a few pages back, but two things caught my attention:



    First, this part shouldn't even matter. The people that are going to be swayed aren't the one's still in the 35%. It's the ones who are slightly/somewhat disgusted by what Trump has done, and/or the ones who don't pay enough attention to the news to get all of the details.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This is why the Dems haven't done impeachment yet. They don't want to risk losing those people, who may think impeachment is politics as usual, aka "they're just doing that because Ds hate Rs, etc etc."
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    This is never about the Trumpers...this is about getting everyone who doesnt like him to vote. If we flip a few great but we dont need to to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    This is never about the Trumpers...this is about getting everyone who doesnt like him to vote. If we flip a few great but we dont need to to win.
    100% correct. They're a complete waste of time and effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    100% correct. They're a complete waste of time and effort.
    Agreed. It's the ones on the fence, the indie voters, etc. The MAGAs? Forget about it.
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    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    Was this gem missed?

    White House announces Jared Kushner's former 'coffee boy' as new Middle East envoy

    I checked. This isn't satire.

    A 2017 Business Insider profile of Mr Berkowitz quoted former White House spokeswoman Hope Hicks as saying his main duties were “daily logistics like getting coffee and coordinating meetings.”

    A former employer said on Twitter Mr Berkowitz was “not very impressive and needed significant hand-holding to handle even simple assignments. But Mideast peace? I’m sure he’s got this!” Another Arab states expert described him as “a glorified intern”.

    The appointment “demonstrates a lack of seriousness” in the administration’s approach to the peace plan and Mr Kushner’s complete dominance over the process, former Middle East advisor to the US defence department Jasmine El-Gamal told The Telegraph. “They are not even pretending otherwise by hiring a qualified person as an envoy.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    On a certain level, the Saudis deserve this. Like sands in an hourglass these are the days of their rule, and they had better use their oil leverage to secure a sane, democratic future for the region because the day it runs out is the day we throw them to their own people, no matter how rich they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    This is never about the Trumpers...this is about getting everyone who doesnt like him to vote. If we flip a few great but we dont need to to win.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    100% correct. They're a complete waste of time and effort.
    And I think you can be pretty certain that the players at the table have known this for a long time and have been playing their cards with that in mind. With regard to impeachment, though, it's not a simple call if you view the election result as an existential issue taking precedent over all others. And I think everybody (except people like us whose opinions carry no risk--only lack of cred on this board from and to strangers) is less certain about predicting elections after '16 and Brexit. Other than rover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    This is never about the Trumpers...this is about getting everyone who doesnt like him to vote. If we flip a few great but we dont need to to win.
    And further we should assume every Dumpy is going to vote for his fuhrer again. I work with them. They are motivated. They are already keyed up to hate whoever Dump tells them to hate, and that will of course be our nominee.

    I hope Perez has detailed analyses of every non-Dumpy in OH, PA, MI, WI, IA, FL, ME. Who they are, whether they voted, whether they are registered, what Elks Lodge they belong to, what their bowling score is, which number spouse this is, which extra value meal they order. And I hope our nerds have created social media micro-targetting that's far better than the GOP's Russian system.

    It's going to come down to non-Dumpies in swing states who didn't vote in 2016.
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    Re: POTUS 45.57: We Should Have Voted for Zaphod Beeblebrox Instead.

    Two more states cancel primaries to show support for their fuhrer.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ating-contests

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