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    This is a brilliant but the title turns me off. I'm still not convinced there are no irredeemable Trumpkins left but this kind of rhetoric - despite the brilliant prose - goes in the "deplorable" bin.

    Amidst a roiling hurricane and another fusillade of Texas gunshots, like many, I was struck by a statement in the new memoir, Call Sign Chaos, written by former Trump Defense Secretary James Mattis with former Reagan Assistant Defense Secretary Bing West. Both men began their careers of public service as US Marines.

    They write, “If you haven’t read hundreds of books, you are functionally illiterate, and you will be incompetent, because your personal experiences alone aren’t broad enough to sustain you.”
    Strong words. Mattis manages to avoid almost any mention by name of our you-know-who-in-chief but the implication is clear. The president is, to use the clinical term, a know-nothing dingdong with no sense of history or perspective because, among other reasons, he doesn’t read. I know, he’ll tell you he doesn’t have to because of his “very, very large brain.”

    Believe me, he has to.

    We know Mattis left the Trump cabinet last December out of frustration and anger, although he has been quiet, largely, about his reasons. But contrary to Trump’s self-evaluation, according to a recent piece by Jonah Goldberg in The Atlantic, “aides and friends say [Mattis] found the president to be of limited cognitive ability, and of generally dubious character.”
    Both EB White and James Thurber wrote for The New Yorker magazine: White was a consummate essayist and children’s book author—Charlotte’s Web, Stuart Little and The Trumpet of the Swan. Thurber was a grandmaster of the short story—perhaps best known for “The Secret Life of Walter Mitty”—and his often absurd and acerbic cartoons.

    The two were friends as well as colleagues and at the beginning of their careers, in 1929, wrote a surprise best seller, a little book titled Is Sex Necessary? It was a parody of the Freudian self-help books that were then the rage and included such chapter headings as “What Should Children Tell Parents?” and “Claustrophobia, or What Every Young Wife Should Know.”

    Each personified the independent, often iconoclastic thinking essential to the survival of a free people. And each bears revisiting for their wit and embrace of America’s quirks as well as a prescient concern for our future as a republic.
    In 1943, as we fought against fascism in World War II, White, prompted by a letter from something called the Writer’s War Board, gave us a pretty good idea of how he saw his country and democracy.

    “It is the hole in the stuffed shirt through which the sawdust slowly trickles,” he wrote, “it is the dent in the high hat. Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. It is the feeling of privacy in the voting booths, the feeling of communion in the libraries, the feeling of vitality everywhere. Democracy is a letter to the editor. Democracy is the score at the beginning of the ninth. It is an idea which hasn’t been disproved yet, a song the words of which have not gone bad. It’s the mustard on the hot dog and the cream in the rationed coffee. Democracy is a request from a War Board, in the middle of a morning in the middle of a war, wanting to know what democracy is.”

    Even earlier, in 1940, White observed, “In this land the citizens are still invited to write their plays and books, to paint their pictures, to meet for discussion, to dissent as well as to agree, to mount soapboxes in the public square, to enjoy education in all subjects without censorship, to hold court and judge one another, to compose music, to talk politics with their neighbors without wondering whether the secret police are listening, to exchange ideas as well as goods, to kid the government when it needs kidding, and to read real news of real events instead of phony news manufactured by a paid agent of the state. This is a fact and should give every person pause.”
    And although he did not fail to point out the failings of the press, he did not view the written word as “fake” or an enemy. In fact, he declared, “I am inordinately proud these days of the quill, for it has shown itself, historically, to be the hypodermic which inoculates men and keeps the germ of freedom always in circulation, so that there are individuals in every time in every land who are the carriers, the Typhoid Marys, capable of infecting others by mere contact and example. These persons are feared by every tyrant—who shows his fear by burning the books and destroying the individuals. A writer goes about his task today with the extra satisfaction which comes from knowing that he will be the first to have his head lopped off—even before the political dandies.”
    As for James Thurber, among his works is a short story from 1931, the title of which would please Trump because he’d think it was about him—“The Greatest Man in the World.”

    In the story, a mechanic’s assistant named Jack “Pal” Smurch manages to fly an airplane around the world, non-stop. He’s a national sensation but the problem is that Smurch also is a complete lout and heel. “It was inevitable that some day there would come roaring out of the skies a national hero of insufficient intelligence, background and character,” Thurber wrote, and Smurch is it. When newsmen track down his mother during the flight, she snorts, “Ah, the hell with him. I hope he drowns.”

    The press makes up a story of Smurch as modest golden boy when in truth, in his Iowa hometown he’s regarded as “a nuisance and a menace” who once knifed his high school principal: “The authorities were convinced that the character of the renowned aviator was such that the limelight of adulation was bound to reveal him to all the world as a congenital hooligan mentally and morally unequipped to cope with his own prodigious fame.” In other words, like our president, a very stable genius.

    Fainting upon arriving in New York at the end of his long flight, Jack Smurch is confined to a hospital while those in charge try to figure out what to do with him. Finally, he’s brought to a conference of the powers-that-be in an attempt to mold his image.

    It’s hopeless. Scorning their advice, Smurch, this generally dubious character, stands “staring down into the street, nine floors below.”

    They throw him out the window.
    Wonderfully crafted and thought out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    Get on it, dems.

    Sam Stein apparently didn't look too far, as Kamala Harris brought this up fairly quickly. Maybe if the media did its job a wee bit better instead of saying "how high" whenever Chump tells them to jump? Harris is in the top teir of Dems running for Prez and a sitting Senator from California which ought to garner some coverage.
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    Congrats Poland!

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    Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post


    Doing a great job saving coal!
    Got plenty of money for brewskis, though.

    Ok, so maybe that's a Coke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Got plenty of money for brewskis, though.

    Ok, so maybe that's a Coke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    A lifetime of inhaling coal dust and drinking sugar. Now there's a future.
    And spent their last $15 on 10 straws.

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    Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
    iwh30 I wish I could be as smart as you. I really do you are the man
    gregg729 I just saw your sig, you do love having people revel in your "intelligence."
    Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
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    DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

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    Hey, remember that super secret spy photo Trump took a photo of? Internet Scooby Doo Gang figured out the exact model of satellite used and the orbit.

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    Penciepoo staying at Dump property on complete opposite coast of Ireland from Dublin (where he has "meetings" scheduled) for two nights, grifters gonna grift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Holy ****ing ****. The mere tweet of this picture probably sent spy agencies around the world into overdrive:
    —analyzing resolution capability
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    He could have put that entire program that satellite belonged to in jeopardy. I’m still wondering how you can possibly do your job with intelligence and not involve the president in any meaningful way. Ever.
    Looks like this was already IDed as a Keyhole satellite almost immediately after launch. This insanely stupid tweet by the president just put $8-12 billion of satellite capability on display. From the article
    The image tweeted by Trump on Friday, showing the aftermath of an accident at Iran's Imam Khomeini Space Center, was so detailed that some experts doubted whether it really could have come from a satellite high above the planet.
    Some (most?) experts didn't think this kind of capability existed from satellites. Now we know it has. Nice.

    The next of the KH-11 satellites was only launched in January. Oof.
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    Our resident security expert should stick in nose up shortly and explain how this is no big deal. Certainly not as egregious as copy and pasting a couple paragraphs from a confidential memo into an email.
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    I feel dirty taking this side, but could this have been a planned leak by people actually running our intelligence apparatus? Put this out there to show whomever needed to know we have this capability. I know that is asking a lot. As dumb as Trump is, I just can't see people working at the highest levels of our government not playing a J. Edgar Hoover card here.

    I'm just more comfortable with that thought than admitting for the 3842th time that Dump is a dumbarse.... I'mma go shower now that I have this dirty thought out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    I feel dirty taking this side, but could this have been a planned leak by people actually running our intelligence apparatus? Put this out there to show whomever needed to know we have this capability. I know that is asking a lot. As dumb as Trump is, I just can't see people working at the highest levels of our government not playing a J. Edgar Hoover card here.

    I'm just more comfortable with that thought than admitting for the 3842th time that Dump is a dumbarse.... I'mma go shower now that I have this dirty thought out there
    Brain bleach.
    The guy can lie like an uber-pro but only for stupid reasons. This has nothing in it for him so, no. No way he could maintain deception without crowing how smart he is for having fooled people. Now maybe they fed him something false and then waited for him to tweet the thing but no way he actually knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leswp1 View Post
    Brain bleach.
    The guy can lie like an uber-pro but only for stupid reasons. This has nothing in it for him so, no. No way he could maintain deception without crowing how smart he is for having fooled people. Now maybe they fed him something false and then waited for him to tweet the thing but no way he actually knows.
    That's what I'm saying. Dumpy was manipulated/played on this. He was given the photo with the intention to get this photo out there to show that we have this capability.

    I just can't see DC career people being ok with having a moron in front of them. It's the equivalent of letting your little brother play with you and your friends. But you and your friends just manipulate your kid brother to give you entertainment. Kid brother thinks he's hanging with the "cool kids". Cool Kids get some cheap, easy entertainment. Same deal here.
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    Why in the world would our “DC career people” want to show that we have this capability? Cui bono?

    Any intelligence gathering mechanism (from moles to sigint to satellite imagery) is far more effective when your adversary DOESN’T know you have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    I feel dirty taking this side, but could this have been a planned leak by people actually running our intelligence apparatus? Put this out there to show whomever needed to know we have this capability. I know that is asking a lot. As dumb as Trump is, I just can't see people working at the highest levels of our government not playing a J. Edgar Hoover card here.

    I'm just more comfortable with that thought than admitting for the 3842th time that Dump is a dumbarse.... I'mma go shower now that I have this dirty thought out there
    Not a chance. They would have just leaked the original. Not taken a picture of it with their cellphone and tweet that, like Dumbass Donnie did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceBoarder View Post
    I feel dirty taking this side, but could this have been a planned leak by people actually running our intelligence apparatus?
    Could it be? Sure. Anything could be.

    Was it? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Got plenty of money for brewskis, though.

    Ok, so maybe that's a Coke.
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    This guy isn't really President, right? It has to be a giant troll job, right?
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    I honestly don't care and think people need to just let the whole thing go. So he said it would hit Alabama and he was wrong...meh.

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