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    I've tried to catch most of the games this year and watching is painful. Every game I've seen has the same formula.**open with some game plan, and when that fails, keep at it, and then double down in the third.**Insanity, as Einstein might say.

    As difficult as it is for me to watch, I can't even imagine what these ladies are going through.

    Each week I am increasingly convinced that this Vines experiment needs to end and a qualified experienced Women's coach needs to be placed behind the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafsFor20 View Post
    I've tried to catch most of the games this year and watching is painful. Every game I've seen has the same formula.**open with some game plan, and when that fails, keep at it, and then double down in the third.**Insanity, as Einstein might say.

    As difficult as it is for me to watch, I can't even imagine what these ladies are going through.

    Each week I am increasingly convinced that this Vines experiment needs to end and a qualified experienced Women's coach needs to be placed behind the bench.
    Union knocked off Quinnipiac this past weekend. There is hope to get off the schneid.

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    Another weekend, another sweep. This team is painful to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by sezenack View Post
    Another weekend, another sweep. This team is painful to watch
    it’s referred to as “cosmic karma”
    You just can’t treat people the way he has treated these girls this year and the last few years and not have consequences.
    “No need for revenge. Just sit back and wait. Those who hurt others will eventually screw up themselves and if you’re lucky, God will let you watch.”
    Fire Vines now!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPI0007 View Post
    it’s referred to as “cosmic karma”
    You just can’t treat people the way he has treated these girls this year and the last few years and not have consequences.
    “No need for revenge. Just sit back and wait. Those who hurt others will eventually screw up themselves and if you’re lucky, God will let you watch.”
    Fire Vines now!!!
    This program will be the laughing stock of D1 hockey until Vines is removed. He is doing a real disservice to these young women, and the school. #StayStrongRed

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafsFor20 View Post
    This program will be the laughing stock of D1 hockey until Vines is removed. He is doing a real disservice to these young women, and the school. #StayStrongRed
    Another sweep weekend. What is the AD waiting for? Only 6 shots in the first game. Obviously, the coaching staff did not prepare this team again and it starts with the leadership. Time to fire Vines now!!!

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    Another sweep weekend. What is the AD waiting for? Only 6 shots in the first game. Obviously, the coaching staff did not prepare this team again and it starts with the leadership. Time to fire Vines now!!!
    That’s only part of the problem. They only dressed 16 players for Friday’s game and 15 players for Saturday’s (not counting goaltenders).
    Firing the head coach at this time is not going to solve anything. They’re not going to make the playoffs regardless of who is coaching so they might as well stay with Vines for the rest of the season and start looking now for a new coach for ‘20-‘21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPI0007 View Post
    it’s referred to as “cosmic karma”
    You just can’t treat people the way he has treated these girls this year and the last few years and not have consequences.
    “No need for revenge. Just sit back and wait. Those who hurt others will eventually screw up themselves and if you’re lucky, God will let you watch.”
    Fire Vines now!!!
    What are you implying and do you have evidence? You can’t slander others on a public message board either. I admit, I don’t know Vines personally, but when I talked with him at points I never got the feeling that he abuses people.

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    That’s only part of the problem. They only dressed 16 players for Friday’s game and 15 players for Saturday’s (not counting goaltenders).
    Firing the head coach at this time is not going to solve anything. They’re not going to make the playoffs regardless of who is coaching so they might as well stay with Vines for the rest of the season and start looking now for a new coach for ‘20-‘21.
    Whether firing Vines now would not solve anything is not the question. This team has no direction and Vines has no sense of offense and is more consumed with defence and trying not to lose. The Vines era is averaging 1.3 goals per and have scored a goal or less 58/88 games = 66%. As for the short bench this weekend, he rolled out the same lines mistake after mistake and did nothing to adjust. Lack of coaching and inability to make in game adjustments equals failure. Where is the AD, seems not to care about these young women and their RPI careers. It's time for a change.

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    Leafs for 20---3 posts, all RPI...disappointed alumni ?

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    The team is bad and top recruits don’t want to play there so it’s not easy putting a decent team together. Laying all of the blame on the coach is being shortsighted.

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    Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa

    Alyssa Denney, whom I have listed as a recruit for next year since June https://board.uscho.com/showthread.p...=1#post6811501 is apparently either no longer a recruit or never was a recruit. She is not listed now on Neutral Zone as an RPI recruit which is where I found mention of her originally. She also appears not to be playing hockey anymore, or at least I have been unable to find her on a current roster.

    Before someone posts that this is an example of Coach Vines and his staff's inability to recruit, it likely just was an error on Neutral Zone's part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckdrop14 View Post
    The team is bad and top recruits don’t want to play there so it’s not easy putting a decent team together. Laying all of the blame on the coach is being shortsighted.
    This is fair, but it's part of a vicious cycle. The team is bad so it's hard for the coach to recruit good players so he's a bad recruiter and can't get the team to be better so he's a bad coach so he gets fired but it's hard to hire a good new coach because the team is bad so it's hard for the new coach to recruit new players...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lugnut92 View Post
    This is fair, but it's part of a vicious cycle. The team is bad so it's hard for the coach to recruit good players so he's a bad recruiter and can't get the team to be better so he's a bad coach so he gets fired but it's hard to hire a good new coach because the team is bad so it's hard for the new coach to recruit new players...
    RPI should be an easier sell than RIT and Union, one would think, because they give full rides. But, you have to want to major in engineering, architecture, computers or management. In addition, RIT is able to give some aid to cdn players because they are considered international. I have noticed that a large amount of girls are from Ontario.
    Perhaps, the parents would rather pay about $14,000 per year to be able to go-to home games on a regular basis. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reddington View Post
    RPI should be an easier sell than RIT and Union, one would think, because they give full rides. But, you have to want to major in engineering, architecture, computers or management. In addition, RIT is able to give some aid to cdn players because they are considered international. I have noticed that a large amount of girls are from Ontario.
    Perhaps, the parents would rather pay about $14,000 per year to be able to go-to home games on a regular basis. Just a thought.
    I think that the list of majors at RPI is a large part of the problem. A large percentage of the players we do get major in engineering -- much higher than on the men's side where almost everyone majors in management. Union got around the scholarship problem quite well on the men's side a few years ago.

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    Not going to post the whole thing, but my KRACHamadoodle gives us a 3 in 1,000,000 chance to make the playoffs. There's a 3.6% chance that we earn 0 points in ECAC play.
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    So the coaching question should include “what does he do with the talent they have.” They lost a great goalie (btw still undefeated at the Pride”). But they did score the last couple years. You can’t put it all on the goalie.

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    The talent (lack thereof) is entirely Vines's fault. The team is pretty much all of "his players". The problem is he doesn't recruit good players. Only reason the team was even respectable before was because he was gifted a generational goaltender. With that generational talent, they couldn't even crack a winning record. He needs to be outed; 9/18 games this season, we have been shutout. It's embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sezenack View Post
    The talent (lack thereof) is entirely Vines's fault. The team is pretty much all of "his players". The problem is he doesn't recruit good players. Only reason the team was even respectable before was because he was gifted a generational goaltender. With that generational talent, they couldn't even crack a winning record. He needs to be outed; 9/18 games this season, we have been shutout. It's embarrassing.
    This is so incredibly misinformed. The first class Vines got when he was hired was all Burkie's recruits. The second class is 1/2 Burke's recruits. Question, how come you are quick on the trigger for Bryan's head when you make every excuse in the world for Dave on the Men's thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AspyDad View Post
    This is so incredibly misinformed. The first class Vines got when he was hired was all Burkie's recruits. The second class is 1/2 Burke's recruits. Question, how come you are quick on the trigger for Bryan's head when you make every excuse in the world for Dave on the Men's thread?
    And why are you just the opposite? They both came the same year. I do agree that Vines deserves more time and the falloff from last year is due to one thing, Selander graduating. It is, however, the case that the RPI women are not performing as well as the pre-Selander teams.

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