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  • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
    But my real point was that trix seemed to be criticizing NPR for an opinion piece by one of their workers. it isnt like the Editor in Chief said this is the way they were going to do it, the guy who is in charge of diversity or whatever wrote an personal opinion. That is no different than when The Times or WaPo print a Conservative opinion piece. Just because they print the piece doesnt mean that is in line with their standards and practices.
    These new sources don't have to peddle garbage, even if it's an opinion piece, they just choose to. And when they do they deserve to be excoriated.

    I get that NYT feels a need to have awful opinions from Bari Weiss because they think it makes them balanced and helps them in some way (CLICKS!!111) but to people who grew weary of bothsideism long before Trump was president, it just seems like they're trying to create a buzz at the expense of their own integrity (much like ESPN and their stupid sports shouting shows that people get mad at and keep watching because they're stupid).

    Anyhow your point is well taken about the difference between opinion articles and "just reporting the new" but that line was blurry a long time ago and in this case I don't think it's even that blurry. Someone replied to that tweet making the comparison to how the media treated "waterboarding" and was too afraid to use the word "torture" during the Bush Admin. IMO if they can back up their claims factually (in the torture case you can probably use some Geneva convention standard, in this case it's even easier) they should just call a spade a spade.
    Last edited by trixR4kids; 07-17-2019, 03:36 PM.

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    • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

      Sackless journalism may be the easiest way out, but think of the implications. What kinds of horrific people will ascend into leadership in this country if facts are no longer reported as such? Here's one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...i-herald-media

      File a report that Epstein has nude underage children in his apartment and you force law enforcement to investigate the rich and powerful. Do some bland story about how he goes out of his way to spend time with children and its a whitewash of what's really going on. For years, for example, we were told how Michael Jackson was just a "child at heart" when in reality he was a child molesting monster. Had journalism done its job back then, there might be a few less victims out there in both cases. Not everything is an opinion up for debate unless you're a monster (or BS artist) yourself.
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      • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

        Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
        These new sources don't have to peddle garbage, even if it's an opinion piece, they just choose to. And when they do they deserve to be excoriated.

        I get that NYT feels a need to have awful opinions from Bari Weiss because they think it makes them balanced and helps them in some way (CLICKS!!111) but to people who grew weary of bothsideism long before Trump was president, it just seems like they're trying to create a buzz at the expense of their own integrity (much like ESPN and their stupid sports shouting shows that people get mad at and keep watching because they're stupid).

        Anyhow your point is well taken about the difference between opinion articles and "just reporting the new" but that line was blurry a long time ago and in this case I don't think it's even that blurry. Someone replied to that tweet making the comparison to how the media treated "waterboarding" and was too afraid to use the word "torture" during the Bush Admin. IMO if they can back up their claims factually (in the torture case you can probably use some Geneva convention standard, in this case it's even easier) they should just call a spade a spade.
        I disagree that NPR is doing that but I agree with what you are saying. It is one of the reasons I despise the media. They will rip Kellyanne Conway to shreds one second then have her on the show to peddle her crap the next. The media is complicit.
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        • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

          Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
          If it was really just opinion that the president is racist, it probably doesn't belong in actual news. However, the president is racist, and THAT should be ********* news.
          Now this...is a very good distinction. Bravo!
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          • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

            Originally posted by Rover View Post
            Goes to the old question as defined by a SCOTUS justice (forget which one): "I know pornography when I see it". Not everything is an opinion up for rigorous debate. If Chump showed up at a press conference wearing white sheets and with a cross burning in the back, journalists have a duty to say he just showed up in KKK attire, not "the president held a press conference dressed in white linens and somebody was also burning some wood in the background". What conservaNazi's want is to blur the lines between truth and fiction. If the press was remotely competent (they're not) they'd hold politicians feet to the fire. Too bad the overwhelming majority of them are cowards.
            Yeah, and we know a racist when we see it. And Orange ****tard is a racist.
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            • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

              Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
              If it was really just opinion that the president is racist, it probably doesn't belong in actual news. However, the president is racist, and THAT should be ********* news.
              Yeah. I have to say, that’s the only thing that really tips me to this side of the argument.
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              • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                There really are two questions here.

                Question #1 is whether writing that the tweet or the person is "racist" is a statement of opinion or a statement of fact. I happen to think it's a statement of opinion, and personally I'd like it to remain that way. You can be sued for statements of fact you make, unless you can prove they are true. Statements of opinion are protected. I can pretty much guarantee that every person who has ever been sued for calling someone a racist has used the defense that the statement was not fact, it was opinion.

                Question #2 is, assuming it's a statement of opinion, should it be included in regular news stories, or should it be left to opinion commentary. I'm no journalist, and maybe it's a matter of personal preference, but I'd prefer that statements of opinion be reserved for the opinion columns and that a reporter give us "just the facts."
                So a Hovey headline is “President Tweets” while any other adjective is opinion?
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                • Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                  Maybe Hitler just loved the Jews a little too much...
                  To rover’s point..... mookie doesn’t need to read “in an anti-Semite move, hitler gases Jews” to know that this is anti Semitic

                  “Hitler gases Jews” covers it just fine.

                  Same can be used for tD rantings on tweeter this past week. No reason to make the story about the journalist.
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                  • New chant at the rallies. "Send her back." Referring to Omar. This is getting bad.
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                    • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      New chant at the rallies. "Send her back." Referring to Omar. This is getting bad.
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                      • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                        Sounds like a very bizarre rally tonight.
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                        • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                          New chant at the rallies. "Send her back." Referring to Omar. This is getting bad.
                          This is sinking to their level, but it's hard to not think Trump supporter = White Trash. I should give them the benefit of the doubt, but it's getting difficult to let them speak, let alone analyze their thoughts objectively.
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                          • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                            Yeah yeah yeah, but to the Twitter Left if you don't explicitly call him a racist in your article (which he definitely is), that makes you complicit and basically a MAGAt.

                            Interestingly, it's usually the same folks who say that supporting Warren over Bernie makes you a corporate sellout!
                            Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 07-17-2019, 07:33 PM.

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                            • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                              Her security will need to be beefed up.

                              The entire party is a bunch of cowards

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                              • Re: POTUS 45:55: Wow, @CNN RATINGS HAVE CRASHED. LOST ALL CREDIBILITY!

                                Just more evidence as to why the Democrats need to ignore the "centrist" view of "why won't you work harder across the aisle?"

                                Because the fu**ing GOP refuses to even acknowledge there's a fu**ing aisle to even walk across.
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