Page 19 of 30 FirstFirst ... 91011121314151617181920212223242526272829 ... LastLast
Results 361 to 380 of 582

Thread: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

  1. #361

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Location
    Long Winded Posts That Go Nowhere (TM)
    Posts
    69,045

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    So basically you're saying you are what your record says you are so the USMNT is, at least for the short term, up a crick?

    I hope we've pulled our head out by 2026. That's the only time in my lifetime I'm going to have a shot of seeing us go deep. But for that to happen, if you're right and the cupboard is bare, then we have to start developing that team literally right now.
    Last edited by Kepler; 10-16-2019 at 02:59 PM.
    Cornell University
    NCAA Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019

  2. #362
    Never Forget!
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    4,419

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    On the bright side, it appears the United States squad will be spared the extreme heat of a World Cup in Qatar.

  3. #363
    there's a good buck in that racket.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    oasis in the middle east
    Posts
    43,579

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    To be honest it is something one gets used to

  4. #364
    Never Forget!
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    4,419

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    To be honest it is something one gets used to
    Missing World Cups?

  5. #365
    Old Dirty Basterd Shirtless Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    17,011

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    So basically you're saying you are what your record says you are so the USMNT is, at least for the short term, up a crick?

    I hope we've pulled our head out by 2026. That's the only time in my lifetime I'm going to have a shot of seeing us go deep. But for that to happen, if you're right and the cupboard is bare, then we have to start developing that team literally right now.
    The cupboard isn't bare, the cupboard is young.
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

    Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton

  6. #366
    Already insane, UAA making it worse
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    49th
    Posts
    19,479
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    The cupboard isn't bare, the cupboard is young.
    This.

    The USMNT isn’t up a crick or anything, it’s just that they’re not as good as they use to be and if they play like crap against an extremely motivated team like Canada they will lose.

    My reaction is more that we should be focusing on the fact that the team played terrible and not so much on “OMG THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN WE NEED TO BLOW IT UP!!!” I get that people are still angry about the World Cup but things don’t change overnight.

  7. #367

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Location
    Long Winded Posts That Go Nowhere (TM)
    Posts
    69,045

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    This.

    The USMNT isn’t up a crick or anything, it’s just that they’re not as good as they use to be and if they play like crap against an extremely motivated team like Canada they will lose.

    My reaction is more that we should be focusing on the fact that the team played terrible and not so much on “OMG THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN WE NEED TO BLOW IT UP!!!” I get that people are still angry about the World Cup but things don’t change overnight.
    OK; that's significantly better.

    Tell immigrants if we win the Cup there's full amnesty and everybody becomes a citizen. We will win the Cup fielding an entire lineup named Martinez.
    Cornell University
    NCAA Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019

  8. #368
    (Comrade Fox)
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Burlington, VT
    Posts
    1,302

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post

    But remember, it’s Berhalter’s fault.
    Berhalter isn't doing himself any favors but this is a good point. Take the U20 squads from 2009 to 2013, this should theoretically be a group in its prime...so few of them have been anything.

    From the 2009 U20 WC: 8 of the 23 man have been capped...but two were one-cap wonders and two were capped by not-the-US. That leaves one with Sean Johnson, Mix Diskerud, Jorge Villafaña, and Brek Shea...Johnson is a backup at best internationally, the other three are rubbish

    From the 2011 Concacaf U20 Championship (they missed the U20 WC): Bobby Wood, Sebastian Lletget, and Greg Garza the only ones to need a second hand to count their caps, and one of them is currently a defender on an MLS team that gave up the most goals in a season, ever.

    From the 2013 U20 WC: 6 players capped, 2 of whom have played less than 5, which leaves us with Yedlin, Trapp, Steffen, and Acosta.

    It's that lost generation that's killing the US national team. There isn't enough to bridge the Project 2010 gang with the young up and comers (Pulisic, Adams, McKinnie, etc).
    https://twitter.com/TheVTHockeyBlog
    https://thevermonthockeyblog.wordpress.com/

    Frozen Four: '96, '09
    NCAA Tournament: '88, '96, '97, '09, '10, '14

    /r/collegehockey moderator
    Fan of the UVM Catamounts, Charlotte Hornets, Oakland A's, and Philadelphia Union

  9. #369
    Old Dirty Basterd Shirtless Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    17,011

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    OK; that's significantly better.

    Tell immigrants if we win the Cup there's full amnesty and everybody becomes a citizen. We will win the Cup fielding an entire lineup named Martinez.
    Mexico has never done better than the best USA teams...
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

    Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton

  10. #370
    Old Dirty Basterd Shirtless Guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    17,011

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by TovarishchLisa View Post
    Berhalter isn't doing himself any favors but this is a good point. Take the U20 squads from 2009 to 2013, this should theoretically be a group in its prime...so few of them have been anything.

    From the 2009 U20 WC: 8 of the 23 man have been capped...but two were one-cap wonders and two were capped by not-the-US. That leaves one with Sean Johnson, Mix Diskerud, Jorge Villafaña, and Brek Shea...Johnson is a backup at best internationally, the other three are rubbish

    From the 2011 Concacaf U20 Championship (they missed the U20 WC): Bobby Wood, Sebastian Lletget, and Greg Garza the only ones to need a second hand to count their caps, and one of them is currently a defender on an MLS team that gave up the most goals in a season, ever.

    From the 2013 U20 WC: 6 players capped, 2 of whom have played less than 5, which leaves us with Yedlin, Trapp, Steffen, and Acosta.

    It's that lost generation that's killing the US national team. There isn't enough to bridge the Project 2010 gang with the young up and comers (Pulisic, Adams, McKinnie, etc).
    Do we blame that on the transition from Bradenton to MLS academies?
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

    Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton

  11. #371
    Never Forget!
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    4,419
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    Mexico has never done better than the best USA teams...
    The immigrants aren't coming from Mexico, they're coming *through* Mexico. Which doesn't bode well considering the World Cup track records of Honduras, Guatemala, Costa Rica and Nicaragua. Maybe we can get a bunch of Argentines and Brazilians.

  12. #372
    Waiting for the Snow to fly...
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    South Chicago Burbs... For now anyways...
    Posts
    5,936

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    We have 10 months to get this figured out. That's the issue. The kids will have the weight of the world on their shoulders come next September.
    It's never too early to start the Pre-game festivities

    Go Cats!!! GO BLACKHAWKS!

    Cuck the Fubs... Let's Go WHITE SOX!!!

    Wildcat Born, Wildcat Bred....

  13. #373
    Already insane, UAA making it worse
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    49th
    Posts
    19,479
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    Do we blame that on the transition from Bradenton to MLS academies?
    Possibly, DA started in 2007, but that really isn’t too much of an excuse. There’s just a dearth of talent from those birth years.

    I even looked up the MLS Rookie of the Year winners for that era for the “late bloomer” factor like Dempsey. For reference the list from 1996 to 2009 includes:
    1996 - Steve Ralston (36 caps)
    1998 - Ben Olsen (37 caps, 2006 World Cup)
    2000 - Carlos Bocanegra (110 caps, 2006 and 2010 World Cup)
    2004 - Clint Dempsey (Clint Dempsey)
    2006 - Jonathan Bornstein (36 caps, 2010 World Cup)
    2007 - Maurice Edu (46 caps, 2010 World Cup)
    2009 - Omar Gonzalez (52 caps, 2014 World Cup)

    Solid list of pros and NT players with a few exceptional talents. You could even add some fringe guys like Jay Heaps (1999), Kyle Martino (2002), and Micheal Parkhurst (2005) who could’ve contributed as well.

    Now, from Omar Gonzalez in 2009 to Jordan Morris in 2016 we have:
    2010 - Andy Najar (Honduran)
    2011 - CJ Sapong (4 caps, no goals)
    2012 - Austin Berry (0 caps, left MLS in 2015, now a coach at FC Cincinnati)
    2013 - Dillion Powers (0 caps)
    2014 - Tesho Akindele (Canadian)
    2015 - Cyle Larin (also Canadian)

    Oof, there was just no notable from that era.

  14. #374
    Generic Catchy Message
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Willoughby, 1888
    Posts
    7,971

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    I blame Freddy Adu. He was supposed to be delivering our fourth straight World Cup in 2018.
    Go Green! Go White! Go State!

    1966, 1986, 2007

    Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons

  15. #375

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Location
    Long Winded Posts That Go Nowhere (TM)
    Posts
    69,045

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    I blame Freddy Adu. He was supposed to be delivering our fourth straight World Cup in 2018.
    I thought it was all on that kid who went Eye-tie?
    Cornell University
    NCAA Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019

  16. #376
    there's a good buck in that racket.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    oasis in the middle east
    Posts
    43,579
    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    Missing World Cups?


    Some things??

  17. #377
    there's a good buck in that racket.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    oasis in the middle east
    Posts
    43,579
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    The cupboard isn't bare, the cupboard is young.

    So Sayeth Jeremy Epstein

  18. #378
    there's a good buck in that racket.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    oasis in the middle east
    Posts
    43,579

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    What is the origination of “caps”?

  19. #379
    Generic Catchy Message
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Willoughby, 1888
    Posts
    7,971
    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    What is the origination of “caps”?
    Hats were the original “uniform”, rather than shirts. It eventually morphed into more of a ceremonial thing, receiving one after each game. Now most teams only do it for milestones if they do it at all.

  20. #380
    I got nothing Slap Shot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Clark Freeport Zone, Philippines
    Posts
    31,796

    Re: World Soccer XXX: We Have Men Too!

    I always hoped Preki would become a star for the name alone.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (1 members and 1 guests)

  1. Jimjamesak

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •