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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey 2019-2020: Time to Get Offensive

    Take away the Merrimack game, which was clearly an outlier, and what do you have?

    Not an amazing offense. And a putrid defense.

    This isnít a good team.

    It can be an excellent team, it has all the ingredients. But it isnít. Not even a little bit. Not right now.

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    Over the last 6 games the PP is 2 for 29 (6.8%) and Goal has just 2g in the last 7 games. That's a 10g/season pace over those 7. That from the greatest American goal scorer in history as far as we can tell. (accept for maybe Bobby Hull) Not blaming Goal, just asking how long can he realistically be kept down? Holloway is going to score goals and create assists this year... And how long can the PP, with the talent they have, operate at that rate? Offense is often streaky, but I just don't believe they all can be kept out of the net forever. They just have to bear down and finish. Score goals and play with the lead.

    If they could split ND this weekend they would be .500 vs. the current #(3)4, #6, #7, and #8 teams in the country. Normally that would be considered a pretty decent result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Over the last 6 games the PP is 2 for 29 (6.8%) and Goal has just 2g in the last 7 games. That's a 10g/season pace over those 7. That from the greatest American goal scorer in history as far as we can tell. (accept for maybe Bobby Hull) Not blaming Goal, just asking how long can he realistically be kept down? Holloway is going to score goals and create assists this year... And how long can the PP, with the talent they have, operate at that rate? Offense is often streaky, but I just don't believe they all can be kept out of the net forever. They just have to bear down and finish. Score goals and play with the lead.

    If they could split ND this weekend they would be .500 vs. the current #(3)4, #6, #7, and #8 teams in the country. Normally that would be considered a pretty decent result.
    When they get swept this weekend, what will your excuse be?

    They are mediocre on offense (the last 6 games) and terrible on defense to this point. PP is back to last years putrid results. Trends are down, 2-4 in last 6 after starting 3-1. It's not "pretty decent"......

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    Wisko we are ALL Badger fans here, and among my friends I still talk about how good Badger Hockey SHOULD be, but we don't all wear Cardinal colored glasses. Things are not good for some reason. It's not doom and gloom, but it IS NOT pretty decent...IT SUCKS BALLS (or PUCKS, if you will). No if's and's or butt's about it. I HOPE we can sweep the domers, but I'm so afraid of what may happen. On the other hand, maybe they wake up and play NoDames tough like 2 years ago at United Center when NoDames was #1.

    Being ranked 10th in scoring (with as low as it is) is a national comparison so nobody is scoring a lot. But 50th in defense, ***?
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey 2019-2020: Time to Get Offensive

    Worth remembering: we are only ranked so high in scoring because of one statistical outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    Worth remembering: we are only ranked so high in scoring because of one statistical outlier.
    If the Merrimack game was 7-5 versus 11-5, our offense stats would be 3.3 GPG and tie us at 15, so yes.

    The last 6 games after UMD series has been 2.33 GPG or 43rd.

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    Seems as though the staff has been searching this thread for ideas, because apparently we're getting the things that various posters have suggested we want. Miller out of the middle and up top on the PP. Kalynuk to the second PP and Holloway to the first. Lindy up in the top six with Holloway and Linus. Achan with Turcotte and Caufield. (I'm excited to see that one) Baker and Dhooghe with TPB on the third. All stuff that has been asked for here.

    How many of us post regularly here with these ideas? Is there 10? Just fire the staff and split their $900k between the ten of us and we'll make all the decisions and win the titles, no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    How many of us post regularly here with these ideas? Is there 10? Just fire the staff and split their $900k between the ten of us and we'll make all the decisions and win the titles, no problem.
    I will skip my cut so that each of you get more. I'm just that kind of guy. (I will take a ring when we win our first 'ship though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    How many of us post regularly here with these ideas? Is there 10? Just fire the staff and split their $900k between the ten of us and we'll make all the decisions and win the titles, no problem.
    All I need in return is to be able to sit where ever I want for all games, get free parking close, hop on the team plane for away games, be able to brings as many people as I want to women's games for nothing, and yes, a RING when we win it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Lindy up in the top six with Holloway and Linus.
    Love this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Seems as though the staff has been searching this thread for ideas, because apparently we're getting the things that various posters have suggested we want. Miller out of the middle and up top on the PP. Kalynuk to the second PP and Holloway to the first. Lindy up in the top six with Holloway and Linus. Achan with Turcotte and Caufield. (I'm excited to see that one) Baker and Dhooghe with TPB on the third. All stuff that has been asked for here.
    Finally. Lindmark-Holloway-Linus might be the most dangerous line we have now. Holloway should be more present on the score sheet playing with these guys.

    At least the coaches are making some changes and recognizing there are problems and not just saying the same old crap.

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    Lindmark is underrated offensively. Dude makes things happen.. goes into corners and battles. Plays hard. Doesn't just have one aspect of his game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Over the last 6 games the PP is 2 for 29 (6.8%) and Goal has just 2g in the last 7 games. That's a 10g/season pace over those 7. That from the greatest American goal scorer in history as far as we can tell. (accept for maybe Bobby Hull) Not blaming Goal, just asking how long can he realistically be kept down? Holloway is going to score goals and create assists this year... And how long can the PP, with the talent they have, operate at that rate? Offense is often streaky, but I just don't believe they all can be kept out of the net forever. They just have to bear down and finish. Score goals and play with the lead.

    If they could split ND this weekend they would be .500 vs. the current #(3)4, #6, #7, and #8 teams in the country. Normally that would be considered a pretty decent result.
    There it is Wisco. You touched on it. All this ragging on this team with a boat load of freshman and no upperclassmen leadership. During the past 2 seasons including this one the Badgers have played one of the toughest schedules in the nation. No one gives them credit for this. Go back look at the teams. Don't forget no one wins titles with underclassmen. I am frustrated too but the ragging here is a pain to read and is zero help for anyone. I have attended games trait through since 99-2000, where are your asses? In addition when ND was added to our league the cobergce has improved at lot.

    There is something wrong with the coaching dynamic on the defensive end of the game but its clear to me the kids that come here are pampered and coddled with all the glitter that is UW and they get distracted when they are young.

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    Anybody watch Sparty and the Blue Weasels last night?

    One - Khodorenko is a freakin' beast. He should probably be locked up for the way he murdered Wolverines all night long. Have always loved that kid's game and was disappointed they couldn't/didn't recruit him here.

    But anyway, in context of talking about D play, I don't think Sparty has a better D corps than we do, but it was noticeable how much easier it was for their D to handle the puck. First off, they play a system where they pretty much line up 3 and 2 at their own blue line a lot of the time and then the D are basically just trying to take it behind the net and set up a controlled breakout. When you contrast that with the system the Badgers are playing, it really stands out how much more pressure we're putting on our D to play fast, make instant decisions, turn the puck up the wall or to the middle right now, and go. Rather than gather it in and set up for a controlled break out, we're asking our guys to do a lot more a lot faster. When they're clicking we control play and the puck and create chances on the rush, but they have to get more consistent with execution and communication, because when they don't handle the forecheck, it looks really ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    All I need in return is to be able to sit where ever I want for all games, get free parking close, hop on the team plane for away games, be able to brings as many people as I want to women's games for nothing, and yes, a RING when we win it.

    Not that you're not worth it Tim, but I don't know if we can afford you. That LaBahn expansion is going to cost a mint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by druzy192 View Post
    Lindmark is underrated offensively. Dude makes things happen.. goes into corners and battles. Plays hard. Doesn't just have one aspect of his game.
    I don't know if "underrated" is the exactly the right term but I guess it's fair. I think his game has been well respected by a lot of people that watched him play last year. I think he played in every spot in the lineup from top C to 4th wing and all spots in between at one point or another. I agree that he's a very good player and I know the Panthers were feeling pretty fortunate to get him in the 5th round. He's got a lot of versatility, can really skate, can score or make plays, and has a great head for the game. Has been one of our most valuable and consistent guys. Hoping that he and Linus can help Holloway breakout and get going on the score sheet this weekend as well.

    Appears to be lots of good seats available for tonight's game! (unfortunately)
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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey 2019-2020: Time to Get Offensive

    Pelton-Byce is reportedly sick and won't skate tonight according to Todd M.

    https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/sta...563094528?s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    I don't know if "underrated" is the exactly the right term but I guess it's fair. I think his game has been well respected by a lot of people that watched him play last year. I think he played in every spot in the lineup from top C to 4th wing and all spots in between at one point or another. I agree that he's a very good player and I know the Panthers were feeling pretty fortunate to get him in the 5th round. He's got a lot of versatility, can really skate, can score or make plays, and has a great head for the game. Has been one of our most valuable and consistent guys. Hoping that he and Linus can help Holloway breakout and get going on the score sheet this weekend as well.

    Appears to be lots of good seats available for tonight's game! (unfortunately)
    I'm packing up the wife and kids in the family truckster and heading to Madison to fill 4 of those seats shortly. Hope the boys bring it.

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    I am headed to Dubuque for a hockey tournament for my daughter this weekend, otherwise I would have been at the Kohl Center tonight. Hope the boys have a good weekend.

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    Re: Wisconsin Hockey 2019-2020: Time to Get Offensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Appears to be lots of good seats available for tonight's game! (unfortunately)
    I will have 4 butts in seats tomorrow night, we are doing the first of 2 men's/women's double plays for this season. The other is MN weekend for the lads.

    New line combo's, new PP combo's, lots of reason for hope for this weekend.
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