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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Kep is backdooring single payer. I kind of like it. Keep your plan. Pick your doctor. Send us the bill.

    But then it doesn’t address the problems with prescription costs, overhead, etc.
    Not a deal breaker, though. For example, we don't seem to have a price information problem for making fighter jets. God bless CPAF.

    You interpreted my proposal correctly. I was not saying we file our medical costs as a tax exemption from our income as Sic interpreted. I was saying we file our medical costs as a straight refund from the Treasury Department. Not 30% of so exempt from tax. 100% recovery.

    Now, one might argue it would then be pointless for me to buy insurance and pay the premiums if whatever I eventually pay for medical care I can just get refunded, whereas the premiums would not be recoverable. And one might be right. But if that's a downstream effect of my proposal that's just what the market decides. I would never, ever advocate for the violent death of health insurance companies and all the wonderful work they do for the consumer.

    Heaven forbid.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    Efficiency and controlling costs, private insurers are more efficient because thatís where the profit is.
    numbers?
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Heís a moron. The numbers have been run several times. Medicare has something like a 3% overhead whereas private insurance is closer to 20%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Heís a moron. The numbers have been run several times. Medicare has something like a 3% overhead whereas private insurance is closer to 20%.
    Was hoping not to see something changed...

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Heís a moron.
    We know this from every post it's ever made. Put it on Ignore and FFS stop quoting it.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Sure, Medicare for All would be a lot simpler.
    No, you'd be replacing a private bureaucratic system with a larger governmental bureaucratic system.

    Ask yourself: If you have something that needs to be in the hands of someone on the other coast at 1030 hours tomorrow morning ... USPS* or FedEx**.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    Simple solutions for simple minds.

    If eliminating private insurance and Medicare for all is the answer then why do 1/3 of all people on Medicare chose to go with a private insurer and the number is growing each year and expected to hit 50% some time in 2025? And why is the government, Congress, been pushing more people to these private insurers? Efficiency and controlling costs, private insurers are more efficient because thatís where the profit is. Why do people chose to go with private insurance? Better coverage/more benefits.
    Over 90% of people new to Medicare chose the Gubermint out of ignorance, but once they learn they get better benefits and speedier response from private insurance, they switch.

    you lefties are a riot, it would be even more humorous if the consequences of your ignorance wasn't so damaging
    Drugs in nearly every OECD nation cost like half of what they do here, they have better health outcomes, and it doesn't cost as much. This isn't hard.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Sure, Medicare for All would be a lot simpler.
    Iíve said this half a dozen times now. Medicare seems easy until you or someone in your family enrolls. Itís a ****ing mess and itís ridiculously complex. My dad is the smartest guy I know when it comes to this stuff. He struggled through the process.

    Iím for single payer, but it canít look like Medicare.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    No, you'd be replacing a private bureaucratic system with a larger governmental bureaucratic system.

    Ask yourself: If you have something that needs to be in the hands of someone on the other coast at 1030 hours tomorrow morning ... USPS* or FedEx**.


    *Yes, quasi-governmental.
    **Private.
    Private almost always has more overhead than public. Itís just a fact.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Drugs in nearly every OECD nation cost like half of what they do here, they have better health outcomes, and it doesn't cost as much. This isn't hard.
    that's an entirely different discussion

    as for your claim of better outcomes, outright lie or ignorance on your part

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    I am paid to know the oecd data so to pass off the results of other nations is laughable

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    We know this from every post it's ever made. Put it on Ignore and FFS stop quoting it.
    yes, insert your head in the ground

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    I am paid to know the oecd data so to pass off the results of other nations is laughable
    so explain why a third of Medicare customers get it through private insurance and why that number grows each year?

    I can't speak for everyone, but I and everyone I have talked to, when you receive better coverage for the same price, and get better service, it is a no brainer,

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    No, you'd be replacing a private bureaucratic system with a larger governmental bureaucratic system.

    Ask yourself: If you have something that needs to be in the hands of someone on the other coast at 1030 hours tomorrow morning ... USPS* or FedEx**.


    *Yes, quasi-governmental.
    **Private.
    Neither.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Neither.
    Agreed. FedEx can **** itself. Iíd use UPS. Theyíre the only ones I use to ship. USPS is fine, but UPS has the shipping thing down pat.

    FedEx is the only service I know that holds your package for two weekdays in a warehouse five miles from you because itís not due for delivery. **** them.

    Edit: that being said, if I need something huge shipped the fastest way possible, Iíd probably still go FedEx Critical. Two guys in a truck, take shifts driving, stopping only to refuel and use the can.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    I’ve said this half a dozen times now. Medicare seems easy until you or someone in your family enrolls. It’s a ****ing mess and it’s ridiculously complex. My dad is the smartest guy I know when it comes to this stuff. He struggled through the process.

    I’m for single payer, but it can’t look like Medicare.
    That's just being done for branding purposes, it's more like medicaid for all except you're getting rid of the poverty requirement and everyone is automatically enrolled.

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    A republican challenger ! Good to see you again mark, hope the Appalachian trail was fun

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...lenge-to-trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    A republican challenger ! Good to see you again mark, hope the Appalachian trail was fun

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...lenge-to-trump
    Sounds like he lost his last primary and has nothing to lose. That said his chances are zero so Į\_(ツ)_/Į

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers IV: Culling the Herd

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    No, you'd be replacing a private bureaucratic system with a larger governmental bureaucratic system.

    Ask yourself: If you have something that needs to be in the hands of someone on the other coast at 1030 hours tomorrow morning ... USPS* or FedEx**.


    *Yes, quasi-governmental.
    **Private.
    USPS. Every time. I like FedEx but USPS is way more reliable and I used it 9/10 times when I was in various shipping departments. (unless they had a deal with someone else) USPS with confirmation > Fedex.

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