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I feel bad for the Alaskan teams, but it had to happen. (It's easier to get to London than it is to either of them for all of Hockey East and the ECAC, for example.)
Just not a practical situation for the cottage-industry that is college hockey, IMO.
Last edited by Fishman'81; 07-10-2019 at 12:51 AM.
idea not considering the AZ and AK schools;
bring UAH back to make it the magnificent 8... call the new conference TAHA (tornado alley hockey association)
create two regions/divisions;
Cone Tornado - "When people think of a tornado rolling across the Plains in the central United States, a cone tornado is often what comes to mind."
Wedge Tornado - "Some of the largest and most destructive tornadoes in history fall in the category of a wedge tornado."
Cone Division; MNSU/BSU/MTU/NMU
Wedge Division; LSSU/FSU/BGSU/UAH
pair them up for local rivalries;
have teams play four series against their rival, two series against their two other region/division teams, and one series against all teams in the other region/division.
that would make a 4-2-2-1-1-1-1 series schedule; 24 conference games. all teams make the play-offs, seeing by overall record (and maybe against another region team).
[too many games against your rival? make it 2-2-2 / 2-2-1-1 -or- 3-3-3 / 1-1-1-0 -or- 3-3-2 / 1-1-1-1. or go with 3-3-3 / 1-1-1-1 for 26 games.]
leaving you with 10 games to be had against NC teams.
in the case of tech, you play the GLI, so that leaves four series.
for starters, play UMD, SCSU, UMN, and UWI - two NACHO and two B1G.
i would be a happy camper; reduces travel, cost, opens schedule for more NC games, and increases local rivalries.
you are welcome.
GO TECH GOLD!
Last edited by DrunkTrainPolka; 07-10-2019 at 12:36 PM.
Eight regular season games against the same opponent? Basically 1/4 of your schedule against the same team? You may be onto something, and it could save the Alaska schools - they could start a 3 team conference with ASU and all play each other 16 times in the regular season.
First, changing the buy-out could be made if the other six NCHC teams agreed, and they would probably do that just for travel reasons alone. It's not like trying to change the US Constitution or something.
Second, while WMU and Miami can claim a home in what is currently the top conference, they haven't exactly thrived in that conference, and conference success can be cyclical. WMU has had some recent success and Miami won the tournament a couple of years ago, but more often than not they've finished in the second division of the conference and it hasn't resulted in consistent appearances in the NCAA tournament. They might look at the newly formed CCHA/WCHA or whatever they'll call themselves and see their program as the Mankato program, always at or near the top and consistently appearing in the NCAA tournament.
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The private schools could take a few "like minded" members of the ECAC and leave the state schools behind. It would be financially beneficial to to do so. After what happened to the Big East (which BC helped found) and the NCHC I thought this was where we were headed. Three different people told me that wouldn't happen because BC (and particularly Jerry York) was committed to making Hockey East work.
Sure sounds like he places a higher value on loyalty than money. But he's just a Hall of Famer so he probably isn't much of an example.
1) For the past 3-4 years, Mankato has out-PWR'ed Western and Bemidji has out-PWR'ed Miami State. Result is at worst even up for the Nachos with Mankato providing some upside.
2) Western and Miami State contribute zilch to the Frozen Faceoff revenue stream and that's never going to change. Replacing WMU/MU with 2 more Minnesota schools is a clear win for the Nachos here.
3) With a geographic footprint consolidation travel costs for the remaining members are reduced. Seems like a wash for DU/CC as travel to Bemidji is as bad as travel to K'zoo though it's a net win for everyone else.
If I'm Fenton, why wouldn't I at least consider letting WMU and Miami State out for reduced/zero exit fees? Seems like I'd be better off.
Last edited by TalonsUpPuckDown; 07-10-2019 at 10:40 AM. Reason: Clarification
It's nice to see this discussion be about what could and should happen and not lots of blathering about what could or should have been done seven years ago. Give it a rest. We have three programs here that are on their death beds, and ...
Never mind, I forgot that I'm on the Internet.
People are too busy blaming PSU hockey and the BTHC for problems that existed before either of those entities existed.
I feel like if we were going to be ****ed at PSU for things that we discovered in 2011, there are far more important things for us to be upset about.
nWCHA schools were struggling competitively and financially before realignment. UAA and MTU were cellar dwellers. BGSU almost folded.
nWCHA has higher travel costs than the old WCHA/CCHA alignment, and thatís a fair critique of what happened. Especially with the Alaska schools together.
But gfm is onto something here: endless whining about the WCHA/CCHA to B1G/NCHC/nWCHA shift is pointless. What can be done to fix what actually exists?
What can be done to fix what exists?
Well, we think the Alaska schools are going to have their budgets completely slashed. The only way to fix that is to contribute a lot of money. That's a sad situation, of course, but it seems to be the reality of it.
Huntsville....The problem seems to be that, on the surface, it costs too much to travel there. I'm not really sure that is the case, but some here have indicated that getting to Huntsville is difficult at best. It seems that the program itself is solvent. It also seems, therefore, that cutting travel costs for some schools to get there is the thing which needs to be done.
How do you do that?
I don't know. Ideas?
It's a shame since Huntsville has a long been a youth hockey outpost. But unless more airlines come in and more frequent flights are offered, which presumably would drive down prices, the expense problem will remain.
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there isn't much value for Miami being in the Nacho. Outside of Miami and the random Blue Jacket's fan, very few in SW Ohio knows hockey exists. The value they might add is a rival for WMU and nice barn.
Last edited by Lost_Husky; 07-11-2019 at 08:25 AM.
Itís hard to envision paths forward for UAH that donít involve either:
A- Asking existing schools to be fine with long and/or expensive trips to Alabama, or
B- Other hockey programs appearing from nothingness in the South.
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