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  • Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
    Hasn't Navy been rumored to AH since the current middies were in diapers? [I could ask my BIL if he's heard anything now that he's teaching there.]

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    Yes, although Trefzger and Connelly claimed that sources said there is renewed interest in recent months. (Per the most recent USCHO podcast)
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      Much has been said about cost and travel, but I firmly believe that a major consideration for the WCHA making this drastic move is the fact that the three schools being eliminated are not competitive. Bottom line is that this lack of being competitive hurts every team in the conference when it comes down to the all important PairWise rankings.

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        Originally posted by AZAce View Post
        Much has been said about cost and travel, but I firmly believe that a major consideration for the WCHA making this drastic move is the fact that the three schools being eliminated are not competitive. Bottom line is that this lack of being competitive hurts every team in the conference when it comes down to the all important PairWise rankings.
        I'll say. According to this article, the three teams are 7-57-3 in nonconference play over the past three seasons.

        http://www.startribune.com/wcha-s-de..._mid=348960201
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          Originally posted by AZAce View Post
          Much has been said about cost and travel, but I firmly believe that a major consideration for the WCHA making this drastic move is the fact that the three schools being eliminated are not competitive. Bottom line is that this lack of being competitive hurts every team in the conference when it comes down to the all important PairWise rankings.
          I hope this isn't an issue because: 1) Things are cyclical. It was just a few years ago that Alaska qualified for home ice 2 years in a row (though there was the NCAA penalty one of those years); and 2) Someone has to finish last. I think finances have to be the big driving force here. While those three schools have struggled a bit, the league has still been able to grab at-large bids in '14, '15, '18, and '19, so I don't think it's accurate to say those schools are killing our Pairwise.

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          • Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
            Brain fart. I had Anchorage and Huntsville on loop in my brain from the earlier sentence.

            Economy in Anchorage and Fairbanks.
            The state of AK has $70 billion in the bank...we just count it all the time. We’re not allowed to spend any of it. IMO bottom line those teams 1 don’t want to travel to AK (don’t blame them) 2 feel their pairwise rankings suffer from playing us 3.
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            • Originally posted by AZAce View Post
              Much has been said about cost and travel, but I firmly believe that a major consideration for the WCHA making this drastic move is the fact that the three schools being eliminated are not competitive. Bottom line is that this lack of being competitive hurts every team in the conference when it comes down to the all important PairWise rankings.
              I love (sarcasm) that three down years constitutes being uncompetitive.

              Six teams have made (or would have qualified based on standings) the WCHA playoffs each season since realignment: Mankato, Tech, NMU, Bowling Green, Bemidji, and...Fairbanks. Suddenly Ferris State and Lake Superior wanting to take a creamy dump on UAF makes a ton more sense.

              This isn’t about being uncompetitive. It’s about travel and geography, plain and simple. If it was about being competitive then that $120k that UAF is slated to blow on the six WCHA teams traveling north this coming season would instead be used to beef up recruiting, assistant salaries, facilities...you know, all the things that help a program be more competitive.

              Besides, none of this is a done deal. If ASU doesn’t wind up as a B1G affiliate, the NCHC is the next most obvious landing spot once their arena gets figured out. If that happens, you can bet Mankato is going to go full “Why Western” mode to get that 10th spot (nor would I blame them).
              “We offer no apology for our location at 64 51’21’’ north latitude. We are building for the future and we are confident that well directed effort and education are the forces which make progress possible”

              —UA President Charles E. Bunnell, 1925

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                https://www.miningjournal.net/sports...ngs-out-after/

                When asked if he felt if Huntsville had a chance to become the eighth team to even out the new seven-team conference, Kurtz said that should be more of a national discussion.

                “I think that’s a great question, but I think that’s a question that has to be addressed on a national level,” he said. “If college hockey wants all 60 schools to be viable, then a discussion has to take place on how to best make that happen for all 60 schools.”

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                  Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
                  I hope this isn't an issue because: 1) Things are cyclical. It was just a few years ago that Alaska qualified for home ice 2 years in a row (though there was the NCAA penalty one of those years); and 2) Someone has to finish last. I think finances have to be the big driving force here. While those three schools have struggled a bit, the league has still been able to grab at-large bids in '14, '15, '18, and '19, so I don't think it's accurate to say those schools are killing our Pairwise.
                  Another reason I miss that Pairwise tool at slack.net It would be easy to subtract the UA(A, F H) games from the results and see what the new pairwise are.

                  So a potential veto override vote is next week? What are the odds of that happening?

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                    Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                    Another reason I miss that Pairwise tool at slack.net It would be easy to subtract the UA(A, F H) games from the results and see what the new pairwise are.

                    So a potential veto override vote is next week? What are the odds of that happening?
                    I really don't think it would make much difference. The games that kill you from a Pairwise perspective are the losses (Yeah, I know. Captain Obvious.). PLAYING a team in the bottom 10 doesn't hurt your Pairwise. LOSING TO a team in the bottom 10 hurts you. Our conference has suffered more in the Pairwise from the fact that the NCHC has beaten us like a drum. We've tended to do OK against the other conferences.

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                      Originally posted by DrunkTrainPolka View Post
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crkd3ASK-1A

                      yeah, based on the letter and the video... they seem to have bigger fish to fry then hockey...
                      Alaska's governor's nice little video. Full dividend checks for everyone!

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                      • Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
                        I hope this isn't an issue because: 1) Things are cyclical. It was just a few years ago that Alaska qualified for home ice 2 years in a row (though there was the NCAA penalty one of those years); and 2) Someone has to finish last. I think finances have to be the big driving force here. While those three schools have struggled a bit, the league has still been able to grab at-large bids in '14, '15, '18, and '19, so I don't think it's accurate to say those schools are killing our Pairwise.
                        Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

                        Let’s take a look at last season’s non-conference records for the seven breakaways...

                        Bemidji State: 2-4-2
                        Bowling Green: 5-1-1
                        Ferris State: 2-4-0
                        Lake Superior: 4-1-0
                        Michigan Tech: 1-5-1
                        Mankato: 5-2-1
                        Northern Michigan: 1-6-0

                        You want to get a better PWR, win. Period.
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                          When local media calls you out, that’s usually a good sign something was handled poorly.

                          Conference conspiracies are a bad look for college athletics
                          “We offer no apology for our location at 64 51’21’’ north latitude. We are building for the future and we are confident that well directed effort and education are the forces which make progress possible”

                          —UA President Charles E. Bunnell, 1925

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                          • Originally posted by beaverhockeyfan View Post
                            Alaska's governor's nice little video. Full dividend checks for everyone!

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZMtzSicGsI
                            Guy's a complete moron. And he got elected by promising free money to a bunch of idiots who then go rail against "socialism" as if the PFD isn't a shining example.

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                              Originally posted by broncoinak View Post
                              Guy's a complete moron. And he got elected by promising free money to a bunch of idiots who then go rail against "socialism" as if the PFD isn't a shining example.
                              At least his rich brother (who bankrolled his entire campaign from Texas) paid for him to get a tailor. When he was a state senator he used to walk around in the capitol wearing a suit that was so long it would slide underneath his shoes.

                              You would have thought Sarah Palin was enough of an example why electing somebody from Wasilla to a statewide office up there is a terrible idea.
                              “We offer no apology for our location at 64 51’21’’ north latitude. We are building for the future and we are confident that well directed effort and education are the forces which make progress possible”

                              —UA President Charles E. Bunnell, 1925

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                                Originally posted by DrunkTrainPolka View Post
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crkd3ASK-1A

                                yeah, based on the letter and the video... they seem to have bigger fish to fry then hockey...
                                This. UAA and UAF are in serious trouble as viable academic institutions
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