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    Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 201: A State You Don't Expect

    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Can I ask what was wrong with it?

    You said they didn’t want to invest $25k and “do your maintenance!” earlier. Just curious so we don’t repeat the same mistake.
    There was water damage throughout the house that I didn't recognize.
    1) A number of large spruce trees need to be felled, more than we realized.
    2) Windows needed replacing at a faster schedule than we anticipated. Some windows that have been replaced aren't operable.
    3) They had plumbing that used polybutylene water lines.
    4) The sump pump worked, but it also splashed water all over the place, up and out of its cover.
    5) Many of the doors didn't latch correctly, some had strike plates missing so the door would close, while another had a jerry-rigged strike plate extender.
    6) The entire roof needs to be replaced within the next two years - we expected 8-10.
    7) The driveway couldn't be sand/mud-jacked back into shape, it was at EOL for its operation. So it will need replacing.
    8) The basement was finished by people who didn't pull a permit, so it was never inspected. What we thought were a few incorrectly installed electrical sockets were actually a sign that the basement was completed by amateurs and therefore likely not insulated correctly.
    9) The "newer" water heater was actually 14 years old.
    10) The furnace had some questionable aspects to it.
    11) There was crumbling concrete within a portion of the garage, which was a sure sign of water issues, but the source couldn't be identified with 100% certainty - perhaps a new roof would fix it, or the water source could've been due to the driveway issues.
    12) The oven door is broken.
    13) The dishwasher is broken.
    14) The gas fireplace didn't work.
    15) There was a slight crowning to the main-level floor, which couldn't be explained when looking at the structure from the basement.
    16) The lawn needs to be re-graded for water abatement.
    17) More things that I'm forgetting.
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    You would have lost me at water damage. That's potential mold, if I'm not mistaken.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    You would have lost me at water damage. That's potential mold, if I'm not mistaken.
    Not for this house, according to the inspector. Houses built back in the 60s had enough airflow through them that above ground water issues would dry too quickly for mold to form. All the water issues were above ground, but I still don't like the idea of laying in bed and having the ceiling drip onto me.
    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

    "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Not for this house, according to the inspector. Houses built back in the 60s had enough airflow through them that above ground water issues would dry too quickly for mold to form. All the water issues were above ground, but I still don't like the idea of laying in bed and having the ceiling drip onto me.
    Gotcha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    There was water damage throughout the house that I didn't recognize.
    1) A number of large spruce trees need to be felled, more than we realized.
    2) Windows needed replacing at a faster schedule than we anticipated. Some windows that have been replaced aren't operable.
    3) They had plumbing that used polybutylene water lines.
    4) The sump pump worked, but it also splashed water all over the place, up and out of its cover.
    5) Many of the doors didn't latch correctly, some had strike plates missing so the door would close, while another had a jerry-rigged strike plate extender.
    6) The entire roof needs to be replaced within the next two years - we expected 8-10.
    7) The driveway couldn't be sand/mud-jacked back into shape, it was at EOL for its operation. So it will need replacing.
    8) The basement was finished by people who didn't pull a permit, so it was never inspected. What we thought were a few incorrectly installed electrical sockets were actually a sign that the basement was completed by amateurs and therefore likely not insulated correctly.
    9) The "newer" water heater was actually 14 years old.
    10) The furnace had some questionable aspects to it.
    11) There was crumbling concrete within a portion of the garage, which was a sure sign of water issues, but the source couldn't be identified with 100% certainty - perhaps a new roof would fix it, or the water source could've been due to the driveway issues.
    12) The oven door is broken.
    13) The dishwasher is broken.
    14) The gas fireplace didn't work.
    15) There was a slight crowning to the main-level floor, which couldn't be explained when looking at the structure from the basement.
    16) The lawn needs to be re-graded for water abatement.
    17) More things that I'm forgetting.
    Holy hell.

    Sounds like my house for some of the big items. We need a new deck, a new roof, driveway, and the backyard probably needs regrading.

    Likely going to need a home equity loan for all of that because I donít have $40,000 sitting around anymore. Luckily Iíve got about 75% equity so I can afford it that way. New deck will add a little bit of value since the old one is small and ****ty. Roof will maintain value. And driveway will make me happier.

    The regrade is more of a cost avoidance.

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    75% equity already? Dang, son, you done good.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 201: A State You Don't Expect

    Well, I had a full down payment and my house has appreciated 50% since I bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Well, I had a full down payment and my house has appreciated 50% since I bought it.
    Still though, you are young, that's quite the accomplishment. Kudos!
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Thanks. Iíve been extraordinarily fortunate in life. Iím also a very conservative saver. Until... ahem.... recently. Priorities.


    Also keep in mind, I bought my house at the bottom of the housing market and refinanced at the bottom of the interest rate market. When I say fortunate, I effectively won the lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Thanks. Iíve been extraordinarily fortunate in life. Iím also a very conservative saver. Until... ahem.... recently. Priorities.


    Also keep in mind, I bought my house at the bottom of the housing market and refinanced at the bottom of the interest rate market. When I say fortunate, I effectively won the lottery.
    This is also very key for long-term. I was frugal (to be polite) for a long while, I've faded a little now that I have my base for things. Pay my dues when I'm young, enjoy a little more each year as I get older.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Holy hell.

    Sounds like my house for some of the big items. We need a new deck, a new roof, driveway, and the backyard probably needs regrading.

    Likely going to need a home equity loan for all of that because I donít have $40,000 sitting around anymore. Luckily Iíve got about 75% equity so I can afford it that way. New deck will add a little bit of value since the old one is small and ****ty. Roof will maintain value. And driveway will make me happier.

    The regrade is more of a cost avoidance.
    My wife and I were talking, and weíve decided that we need to tour future homes with a flashlight and use a miner handsy approach. We need to shine the light everywhere there could be a concern, and play a little with the appliances and windows. We donít have the knowledge to know things like the poly pipes, but certainly signs of water damage and inoperable windows are things we can catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    My wife and I were talking, and weíve decided that we need to tour future homes with a flashlight and use a miner handsy approach. We need to shine the light everywhere there could be a concern, and play a little with the appliances and windows. We donít have the knowledge to know things like the poly pipes, but certainly signs of water damage and inoperable windows are things we can catch.
    I think the things Iíve learned from owning my first house need to be in a book or something. Almost certainly true for all first time or even experience buyers.

    Here are some other things I have learned:
    1. Never have a sloped, north facing driveway
    2. Make sure the sump pump is easily accessible and maintainable. Iíll never have one in a crawl space again.
    3. Make sure the master bed window faces your backyard, though, this is somewhat flexible.
    4. Take a plug of ground out and see if there is black dirt below the grass and how much.
    5. Fewer trees in the front yard mean much lower chance of roots in the sewer line.
    6. Relatedly, make sure the clean out port doesnít face a wall six inches away. Make sure itís easily accessed. Make sure you know where all of the clean out ports are.
    7. Hip joints on roof
    8. Look for water issues in the yard. Walk around after a rainstorm. If itís mushy hours later...
    9. Make sure the dryer vent is placed intelligently. Make sure it has a good louvre.
    10. A wash basin discharge for the washer is a big plus.
    11. All bathrooms should be on an exterior wall or have access to the roof and already be vented.
    12. Watch out for candelabra base light fixtures. While pretty, the lightbulb options arenít great.
    13. Trees grow up and out. Remember that.
    14. Wood fences are a non-starter
    15. Wood decks are a pain in the ***.
    16. Donít rock, mulch.
    17. Touch the foliage on the trees. Make sure youíre not allergic.
    18. Gas stove
    19. Sit in the tub. Make sure you can fit comfortably. Mine is a smaller than average tub and there have been times where sitting and soaking after a long day of landscaping might feel good.
    20. Donít pay extra for argon windows.
    21. In a connected world, know where the cable comes in and whether you can get WiFi coverage throughout the house.
    22. When buying, take tons of pictures of everything. Make sure itís all written down in the purchase agreement. Iím convinced I lost a water softener because I didnít pay attention.
    23. Make sure the office has a window. Your sanity will be rewarded. Iím glad I have one.
    24. Look at walls and see if the room offers furniture flexibility. For instance, is there only one wall a couch can reasonably fit? Does it block all access to plugs? Does the bed block outlets? Ditto on dressers in the bedroom.
    25. Look at the hardware and materials around the house. Go to the closest hardware store. Is it Home Depot where they likely bought things? Good, it means they didnít cheap out and go to Menards. Menards is fine, but it MIGHT indicate a mentality if everything is from Menards.
    26. Make sure there is only one GCFI (or whatever the new standard is) on a circuit. Easily fixed, but shows there might be a moron who installed electrical.
    27. Walls that donít meet at a right angle are infuriating when trying to arrange a room.

    Iím sure I have more.

    Edit: just because you donít have a ton of trees, it doesnít mean you wonít have to pick up leaves from your neighborsí trees. I mulch 35 bags a year with four trees and a couple shrubs. Mulched. The rest come from my neighborsí trees

    Edit 2: Drive from the house to the grocery store and something like target. Is it a pain in the ***? It will be every single time.
    Last edited by dxmnkd316; 07-31-2019 at 09:37 AM.

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    Yeah, some of that stuff I know from being a homeowner myself, but I've not run across a lot of that. Thanks.
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    Oops. I thought this was you first. Either way, just some of the things Iíve noticed over the years. I think I kept going with the list for my benefit too when future mrs. dx and I are looking for our first house together.

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    Well, I own a townhouse, so it's not like it's a real house. It's a half-house.
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    Good afternoon Lodge.

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    Good Afternoon Lodge!

    We could have used that list altho some of the things have become issues over the space of a few decades.

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    Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 201: A State You Don't Expect

    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Well, I own a townhouse, so it's not like it's a real house. It's a half-house.
    That's kinda it, really.

    I know whenever I moved into a new apt, I checked off EVERYTHING wrong, and added a few notes, no matter how minor (security deposit reasons). You notate EVERYTHING.
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