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    U of Illinois to add D1 hockey?

    U of IL is having a press conference on Tuesday to (possibly)announce the addition of men’s D1 hockey. Since the press conference includes the big ten but not WCHA (according to the announcement) should we assume they’re not adding women’s hockey? Anyone know what’s going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sieve1 View Post
    Anyone know what’s going on?
    Probably going to announce a new study to study the current study in place to find out the viability of D1 hockey at Illinois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Probably going to announce a new study to study the current study in place to find out the viability of D1 hockey at Illinois.
    I hear Mueller is conducting the study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveHoleFrenzy View Post
    Probably going to announce a new study to study the current study in place to find out the viability of D1 hockey at Illinois.
    From a writer in our local paper:

    "Illinois appears to be inching closer to adding varsity hockey, which would give the Big Ten eight teams in its hockey conference and boost the NCAA Division I men's total to 61 teams. A $250 million development in downtown Champaign that would include a 5,000-seat multipurpose arena that would be home of a proposed University of Illinois team cleared a key vote last week. Champaign City Council members voted to continue negotiations with the project’s developers. Illinois has not yet announced it’s adding hockey, but momentum is going that way. 'We’ve been making positives steps, and that we are remaining within range of a yes,' Illinois athletic director Josh Whitman told the Champaign News-Gazette. 'We’ve continued down that path. We’re getting closer and closer to a decision point'."

    As far as I've seen there has been no mention of women's hockey also being added....at least yet.
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    I don't want IL to have a D1 women's hockey team. That means one step closer to the death of the wWCHA. The B6 totally screwed up the men's landscape in the west and it will the women's as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    I don't want IL to have a D1 women's hockey team. That means one step closer to the death of the wWCHA. The B6 totally screwed up the men's landscape in the west and it will the women's as well.
    But a wB1G would ensure the other 5+1 wWCHA teams would have a chance at the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    I don't want IL to have a D1 women's hockey team. That means one step closer to the death of the wWCHA. The B6 totally screwed up the men's landscape in the west and it will the women's as well.
    Illinois has no D1 options for women (or men) to play hockey in state. There are a lot more girls playing high level AAA hockey in IL than in WI. In fact, plenty of girls have left IL to play at UW.
    So what’s wrong with the state university keeping some of that talent in state? Grow the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sieve1 View Post
    illinois has no d1 options for women (or men) to play hockey in state. There are a lot more girls playing high level aaa hockey in il than in wi. In fact, plenty of girls have left il to play at uw.
    So what’s wrong with the state university keeping some of that talent in state? Grow the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sieve1 View Post
    Illinois has no D1 options for women (or men) to play hockey in state. There are a lot more girls playing high level AAA hockey in IL than in WI. In fact, plenty of girls have left IL to play at UW.
    So what’s wrong with the state university keeping some of that talent in state? Grow the game.
    I think it would set the game back if the B6 formed it's own league. The wWCHA would be in big trouble if UM and UW left, which they have to do if there are enough teams to field a B6 conference, obviously UM and UW prop the wWCHA up. I think the IL talent is finding homes right now. Talent will always find a home. Plus if you look at the men's side, the B6 totally under-delivered on their promises of bringing hockey more exposure. That makes me just not trust the brains @ the B6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    I think it would set the game back if the B6 formed it's own league. The wWCHA would be in big trouble if UM and UW left, which they have to do if there are enough teams to field a B6 conference, obviously UM and UW prop the wWCHA up. I think the IL talent is finding homes right now. Talent will always find a home. Plus if you look at the men's side, the B6 totally under-delivered on their promises of bringing hockey more exposure. That makes me just not trust the brains @ the B6.
    Wouldn't they need Michigan and/or Michigan State to make that work (creating the B6)? Wisonsin, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, and potentially Illinois. I'm using new math and, after estimating it to be 5, I calculate it to be 5. Michigan or Michigan State is nowhere near creating a Women's team because they don't have the donor support. Perhaps this would give them a push to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDad16 View Post
    Wouldn't they need Michigan and/or Michigan State to make that work (creating the B6)? Wisonsin, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, and potentially Illinois. I'm using new math and, after estimating it to be 5, I calculate it to be 5. Michigan or Michigan State is nowhere near creating a Women's team because they don't have the donor support. Perhaps this would give them a push to do so.
    It may be premature to even assume U of I is adding women’s hockey at this point...they could add a different sport to comply with Title IX or even cut a men’s sport. I’m just wondering if anyone has inside info about next week’s press conference...if women’s hockey is part of the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDad16 View Post
    Wouldn't they need Michigan and/or Michigan State to make that work (creating the B6)? Wisonsin, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, and potentially Illinois. I'm using new math and, after estimating it to be 5, I calculate it to be 5. Michigan or Michigan State is nowhere near creating a Women's team because they don't have the donor support. Perhaps this would give them a push to do so.
    Assuming Illinois added a women's team, and the Big Ten wants to form a women's hockey conference (both big 'Ifs'), the sixth team would not have to come from what we all think of as a 'Big Ten' school'. Notre Dame is a 'member' of the Big Ten for hockey, and (believe it or not) Johns Hopkins is a 'affiliated member' to give B1G a sixth team for Lacrosse.

    Geographically, Lindenwood or Mercyhust would make sense. Academically, the Big Ten makes a big deal that all of the 'regular' members are also members of the "Association of American Universities" (though Nebraska has had some trouble maintaining membership because of some dispute regarding their medical school), though Notre Dame is not. Neither Lindenwood nor Mercyhust is an AAU member. Syracuse was a member of the AAU, but also has some dispute that has them 'off the list' right now, so they might be a possibility, as well. (Not even the Ivy League has all its members in the AAU.)

    Taking a member or two from the CHA might kick off a larger re-alignment just as the men's B1G hockey conference did. So, be careful what you wish for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertearle View Post
    Assuming Illinois added a women's team, and the Big Ten wants to form a women's hockey conference (both big 'Ifs'), the sixth team would not have to come from what we all think of as a 'Big Ten' school'
    Originally, 'Big Ten' referred to the actual number of conference members, but now refers to the percentage of Division I schools calling themselves members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDad16 View Post
    Wouldn't they need Michigan and/or Michigan State to make that work (creating the B6)? Wisonsin, Minnesota, Ohio State, Penn State, and potentially Illinois. I'm using new math and, after estimating it to be 5, I calculate it to be 5. Michigan or Michigan State is nowhere near creating a Women's team because they don't have the donor support. Perhaps this would give them a push to do so.
    Right, they need 6. IL would make 5. If IL going for it did push another B6 school to add a women's team, then WCHA loses 2 and the CHA loses 1. That drops them both down to 5 members. Then their autobids are dead. Geographically maybe the WCHA could coax Lindenwood and or M-Hurst in to make 6 or 7, then the CHA's who are left have to beg get into HE or EZAC. The WCHA w/o UM and UW is a mess. Yes I am thinking way ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    IL would make 5. If IL going for it did push another B6 school to add a women's team, then WCHA loses 2 and the CHA loses 1.
    Not necessarily. Just because there are six Big 10 schools that play a particular varsity sport does not mean that it must therefore become a conference sport. This has taken hold in the public consciousness as a conflation of two actual rules and a circumstance:

    1) There must be at least six conference schools that play a particular sport before it can become a conference sport;
    2) If it becomes a conference sport, then any Big 10 school that plays it must do so as a part of the conference;
    3) When Penn State added men's hockey, it became a conference sport because the Big 10 Network was looking for programming.

    My guess is that BTN isn't nearly as hyped about showing lots of women's hockey, so there wouldn't be the same push to make it a conference sport if a sixth school did start a program. At the same time, I suspect that there won't be a sixth school motivated to start a team until the same forces pushing it have also pushed BTN to desire it as programming.

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    Re: U of Illinois to add D1 hockey?

    So if they do get a women’s program do they try and apply for membership in the WCHA or do they try and join with Penn State out East?

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    I can't find anything on the press conference - what was announced?
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    I can't find anything on the press conference - what was announced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    Lt. Col. Henry Blake has been posthumously inducted into the Athletic Hall of Fame for his golf prowess while in medical school... (aged myself a bit here...)
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    Re: U of Illinois to add D1 hockey?

    Semi related as the new W-WCHA commissioner only mentions Northern Michigan and St Thomas (MN) as new potential new conference members.

    https://www.therinklive.com/2019/06/...-commissioner/

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