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Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"
Subscribed. Kepler is the resident pollster but I think it would be interesting to do a recurring primary poll.
I just love that I can step away for a day and everyone picks up the slack ripping trix for me
And Kepler, no you arent a Bernie Bro if for no other reason that Bernie is Right Winged compared to you
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
But his bills!
The @nytimes doesn’t want you to know it, but I am **** proud of the accomplishments @SenSanders and our staff have achieved in the Senate and the House - both inside and outside the beltway. Here's just 20 of our achievements in the two decades I’ve worked for him. (Thread) pic.twitter.com/wEe6PeOwEi
— Warren Gunnels (@GunnelsWarren) July 7, 2019
Just to be more specific, his plan is really bad because it'd effectively just make everything cost more with the VAT he's proposing to pay for it.Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold
So some of the most vulnerable in society just see their lives get harder under this approach to UBI and it kinda flies in the face of his "human centered capitalism" motto.So if you get $1,200 a month in disability, Andrew Yang would not give you your UBI. Now, you might think “Well, but they can stick with their current benefits. They wouldn’t be worse off.” But no! They would be worse off, because Andrew Yang plans to fund his UBI with a giant Value Added Tax (VAT). From his website:
What does this mean in practice? It means that if you’re on disability, the only change you see under a Yang administration is that everything you buy now has a 10% tax added to it. Assuming you spend all of your benefit each month, it means that you’ll be functionally ending up with over $1,000 less per year. And as my friend Benjamin Studebaker points out in his critique of Yang’s plan, this makes the tax highly “regressive.” Because it’s a tax on spending, and poor people spend a greater percentage of their income than rich people spend, poor people have to pay a higher percentage of their income to fund the UBI than rich people have to pay.Andrew proposes funding UBI by consolidating some welfare programs and implementing a Value-Added Tax (VAT) of 10%. Current welfare and social program beneficiaries would be given a choice between their current benefits or $1,000 cash unconditionally – most would prefer cash with no restriction. A Value-Added Tax (VAT) is a tax on the production of goods or services a business produces.
That's from Nathan J Robinson's piece which goes into more detail on Yang.
Last edited by trixR4kids; 07-07-2019 at 02:16 AM.
Winning line - instead of putting Congre$$ on the Vets health plan, as many have called for; put the Vets on Congre$$'s health plan.
And make it free for a retired/disabled vet with a sliding scale at 5% discount for every year you served on active duty (1/2 of that for reserves).
Wait. I am? Sh-t.
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Well I'm glad somebody else recognizes the inherent reactionary conservatism of Sanders' positions. There is only one prosperous future:And Kepler, no you arent a Bernie Bro if for no other reason that Bernie is Right Winged compared to you
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As for the other candidates being no better than Hillary in any notable way, plenty of them are because plenty of them would have succeeded in the one area she was a miserable failure at, being able to beat the single worst candidate ever ever nominated for president by a major party.
I may want the candidate who most aligns with my views to win, but in 2020 I am willing to compromise and be all in for whoever wins because we cannot afford another 4 years of this 5h!t. One or two of the current crop are better than the other 20+, but in my view that is almost meaningless. If you support any of the democrats running today and you sit out the election in November 2020 or vote for some 3rd party hack, my feelings are you are every bit as much of the problem as any fvcking nitwit out there who votes (or voted) for trump and you should rot in Hell along with them.
America is becoming a fundamentally different place (and an exponentially worse one) than it was and we just might be down to our last election to prevent it from becoming an actual fascist state and not the fascist-lite version is has stumbled into recently. There will be two viable choices in virtually every election you will cast a ballot for in November 2020. If you can find it in your brain to vote anything but a straight democratic ticket you are voting for fascism.
Only if you want the title. But then again, you have posted the most polls outside the lodge.
Call it sh*tty all you want, but it's definitely not "libertarian".
Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"
Libertarians have proposed similar Yang-like models in the past.
I get what Joe is saying here, but boy did he manage to turn this into a gaffe in the way that only he can:
"Doctors let you live, nurses make you want to live," Biden says.
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) July 7, 2019
Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"
Biden = Mookie?
Last edited by trixR4kids; 07-07-2019 at 05:24 PM.
Biden truly is Vice President Matthews from My Fellow Americans, isn't he?
“Demolish the bridges behind you… then there is no choice but to build again.”
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well i'm glad somebody else recognizes the inherent reactionary conservatism of sanders' positions. There is only one prosperous future:
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
Oh good lord...people need to lighten up.
"It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
-aparch
"Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
-INCH
Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
-ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007
They do, but you know as well as I do this was awful for him. And we're not even Biden fans, FFS!
Michigan Tech: "Working with scraps and guys from places so remote that Houghton seems like a metropolis"
Mookie reads this as nurses being the ones with you 24/7 and keep up your spirits.
But if some folks are sexists and assume all nurses nowadays are female (!!!) and wear white costumes, well then nothing mookie can do to fix that
As does Fade, but to put this into Mookie terms
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