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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    I had asked a comic book fan friend of mine about it, and his response was, "They made Aquaman as badarse as he could be." That was truth. They did. However, the multiple montages, the extended battle scenes, etc...those took away from the movie. If it was a 90 minute job, tight editing, I think it would have been awesome. He comes across like a serious/caring Deadpool. *shrug*

    Edit: if you're a comic book person, you'll forgive some stuff, and I understand that. I do the same with mafia movies.
    Comic Books has nothing to do with it.
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    Long Shot.

    One of the better romcoms of the past 5 years or so.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Comic Books has nothing to do with it.
    It's a comic book movie. A comic book character. The friend I asked is all into the comic books, and the comic book movies, including the precious End Game.

    It has everything to do with it. I wanted an opinion from someone who was a fan of these movies/subject matter.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    It's a comic book movie. A comic book character. The friend I asked is all into the comic books, and the comic book movies, including the precious End Game.

    It has everything to do with it. I wanted an opinion from someone who was a fan of these movies/subject matter.
    Being based on comic books and being comic books are two completely different things.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Being based on comic books and being comic books are two completely different things.
    Sure.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    Sure.
    Thus, it has nothing to do with comic books. All they did was borrow the characters and make their own thing. It'd be like me writing a Superman Story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Thus, it has nothing to do with comic books. All they did was borrow the characters and make their own thing. It'd be like me writing a Superman Story.
    In that case everything not done by the original writer and artist is fan fiction.

    I'm OK with that, to be honest.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    In that case everything not done by the original writer and artist is fan fiction.

    I'm OK with that, to be honest.
    Comic Books are different but I get your point. And I'm ok with that too.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Itís like he last couple stupid bond movies where they canít think of anything original and redo introduction of specter

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Itís like he last couple stupid bond movies where they canít think of anything original and redo introduction of specter
    And then they thought of something new in "The Last Jedi" and everyone hated it.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    It’s like he last couple stupid bond movies where they can’t think of anything original and redo introduction of specter
    Hey. I've missed Spectre and Blofeld. Holmes needs Moriarity. Max needs KAOS.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    It's a comic book movie. A comic book character. The friend I asked is all into the comic books, and the comic book movies, including the precious End Game.

    It has everything to do with it. I wanted an opinion from someone who was a fan of these movies/subject matter.
    Scooby and I are fans of these films and comics. Our opinions differ greatly on some of them. (based on what I have read on certain films) Asking one reader about them tells you about as much as polling one voter and using him as your sample to prove who is voting, what they are voting for and what the platform should be.

    Liking them and not liking them has nothing to do with being a comic fan...the vast vast vast vast vast vast vast amount of people seeing them have never read a comic book. Maybe if the story in question is something they read back in the day then it might matter but even then stories have to be adapted and changed. (which usually just annoys comic fans just like it does fans of any genre where the story is adapted from original work)

    Take the Del Toro Hellboy films...comic fans like the film but not because it is anything like the actual comics it is based on. Hellboy isnt some big badass demon quipping jokes and jumping around...the comics are rarely lighthearted in any way. Comic fans still liked the film though (not all but most) and it had zero to do with anything other than it being a good film. Hell (no pun intended) more people saw the Hellboy reboot that just bombed than every read the comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    In that case everything not done by the original writer and artist is fan fiction.

    I'm OK with that, to be honest.
    That is a bit harsher than I would go...but I know old school fans that believe that way. there are Superman fans that think the character died in the comics when they made him fly. (not a joke)

    I would use the word "interpretation" over "Fan Fiction" but your point still stands.
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    I think the best part of the explosion of comic book movies has been that there is now enough material out there to end the myth that stories that originate in comic books are special in some way, either negatively or positively.

    As somebody who had literally never read a comic book (and who has still only read one, Watchmen, all the way through), I had definite biases against the material going in. I've probably seen about 2 dozen comic book movies now and for the most part of I've liked them in a "kill 2 hours" way. A couple have been stinkers, a couple have been outstanding. But the mystique of the provenance of comic book movies is completely gone, now. They are just another kind of source material: like a play, a novel, or another movie.

    There's nothing magic pixie about them good or bad. It's a question of whether you can bring a good story to life on the screen, which has been the heart of all movies since the Lumieres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    That is a bit harsher than I would go...but I know old school fans that believe that way. there are Superman fans that think the character died in the comics when they made him fly. (not a joke)

    I would use the word "interpretation" over "Fan Fiction" but your point still stands.
    And I would use "hermaneutic" over "interpretation," because I am a jerk. :-)
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

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    And then they thought of something new in "The Last Jedi" and everyone hated it.
    Well the rub is that not everything new is going to work for people. I am one of the people who hated TLJ but I still give them credit for trying, it just didnt connect with me. Just because it didnt connect though doesnt mean they werent wrong to maybe go against type...they just might have done it the wrong way or too much for some of us.

    That is the problem with iconic characters...once people have in their heart an interpretation of a character it can be very hard for them to see them in a different light. That doesnt mean though you dont keep trying...otherwise there is no need for new stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Well the rub is that not everything new is going to work for people. I am one of the people who hated TLJ but I still give them credit for trying, it just didnt connect with me. Just because it didnt connect though doesnt mean they werent wrong to maybe go against type...they just might have done it the wrong way or too much for some of us.

    That is the problem with iconic characters...once people have in their heart an interpretation of a character it can be very hard for them to see them in a different light. That doesnt mean though you dont keep trying...otherwise there is no need for new stories.
    What was new in TLJ?
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I think the best part of the explosion of comic book movies has been that there is now enough material out there to end the myth that stories that originate in comic books are special in some way, either negatively or positively.

    As somebody who had literally never read a comic book (and who has still only read one, Watchmen, all the way through), I had definite biases against the material going in. I've probably seen about 2 dozen comic book movies now and for the most part of I've liked them in a "kill 2 hours" way. A couple have been stinkers, a couple have been outstanding. But the mystique of the provenance of comic book movies is completely gone, now. They are just another kind of source material: like a play, a novel, or another movie.

    There's nothing magic pixie about them good or bad. It's a question of whether you can bring a good story to life on the screen, which has been the heart of all movies since the Lumieres.
    It is no different than anything else...some stories have deeper content (Watchmen, V For Vendetta) and some dont. If they dont they shouldnt try to and if they do dont water it down.

    Comic books are modern mythology. Some are hyper-realistic but most are just stories about good versus evil. They dont matter any more or any less than most stories out there. The same with the films.
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    Re: Movie Thread #50: Godzilla gives us permission to nuke our enemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    What was new in TLJ?
    They put a different slant on just about everything. I found it refreshing and consistent. I'm in the minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    What was new in TLJ?
    Go to the dedicated thread for it...the discussions are long and rather tedious and not worth ruining this thread.
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