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    F-ck it. You good people are going to help me lose weight (5-9, 235) through shame, guilt, and relentless mockery (Catholicism has to be good for something) so I don't have to exercise. Because I hate exercise.

    Tuesday, 4/30
    Breakfast: Special K (120) with 1% milk (50) = 170. Good.
    Lunch: McDonald's quarter-pounder (520), large fries (500) and large Dr. Pepper (270) = 1290. Very bad.
    1460 cumulative, leaving me 540 for the next 12 hours. Considering that includes Trivia Night which means beer and tater tots that's not going to happen. One day plus a bit closer to death.
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    That is one reason I never drink soda or go to McDonald's for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    That is one reason I never drink soda or go to McDonald's for that matter.
    One thing I have done is break an 8-soda per day (not an exaggeration) home habit by going strictly to 0-cal soda. Still have to do something about the caffeine, though.
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    Just exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    Just exercise.
    It's the most boring thing on earth. I would rather read John Grisham than exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    One thing I have done is break an 8-soda per day (not an exaggeration) home habit by going strictly to 0-cal soda. Still have to do something about the caffeine, though.
    Artificial sweeteners are as bad for you as sugar. There have been studies done that when you taste something sweet, but your body doesn't get the calories, your brain is tricked into making you hungrier at your next meal to make up the deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Artificial sweeteners are as bad for you as sugar. There have been studies done that when you taste something sweet, but your body doesn't get the calories, your brain is tricked into making you hungrier at your next meal to make up the deficit.
    Hmm. That is suboptimal. Well, it was supposed to be a middle step towards water. I can accelerate the transition.

    It, as everything, beats exercise.

    Basically my weight history is:

    20: 155
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    50: 245

    The Plan is to claw back to 199 and then sit there until cancer or something helps a brother out.
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    Meh, just count the calories and go below the limit, drinking soda with zero calories is far better than drinking 8 sodas with 150 calories (or w/e it is). As far as the hunger part of it that's just where you need to eat smarter and eat food with higher protein/fiber etc. that fills you up and cut useless calories elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Meh, just count the calories and go below the limit, drinking soda with zero calories is far better than drinking 8 sodas with 150 calories (or w/e it is).
    Not if it leads me to overeat elsewhere. I take his point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Not if it leads me to overeat elsewhere. I take his point.
    Right but I'm not entirely convinced you have zero control over that (hence what I added after editing).

    If you feel hungry and eat a bunch of tater tots or chips or something then yeah it's bad. If you drink some zero calorie soda and eat a bunch of lean protein and don't go over your calorie # it's not really a problem. There might be other negative health effects of diet soda besides that I'm not aware of.
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    It helps that other than a period in high school where I drank a Coke almost everyday, as well periods in my 20s where I drank entirely too much booze, I've never really had an issue with sticking to water, unsweetened tea, and black coffee.

    I drink a Coke maybe 2-3 times a year now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Right but I'm not entirely convinced you have zero control over that (hence what I added after editing).
    I have complete control over all of this. There is no power forcing me not to eat right and exercise. I'm simply trying to do this in the laziest, least morally demanding possible way. A man with 60k Cafe posts, most of which run to 100+ words, is clearly not naturally attracted to healthy living.

    If it weren't for high blood pressure I would consider developing a serious amphetamine addiction. I hear they help you get stuff done around the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Tuesday, 4/30
    Breakfast: Special K (120) with 1% milk (50) = 170. Good.
    Lunch: McDonald's quarter-pounder (520), large fries (500) and large Dr. Pepper (270) = 1290. Very bad.
    1460 cumulative, leaving me 540 for the next 12 hours. Considering that includes Trivia Night which means beer and tater tots that's not going to happen. One day plus a bit closer to death.
    Long term weight loss for most people requires a slow reduction in daily caloric intake. Generally, diets do not work in the long term. Do not try to do a complete tear down of your diet. Take one thing a week that you find do-able, and either eliminate it or replace it with a low calorie alternative.

    Consider seeing a dietician (not a nutritionist). A dietician is a licensed health care professional...a nutritionist (in most states) is someone who wants to be called a nutritionist.

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    Just exercise.
    Exercise, although great for long term physical and mental health, is not nearly as efficient as caloric restriction at a population level if your goal is to drop weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Artificial sweeteners are as bad for you as sugar. There have been studies done that when you taste something sweet, but your body doesn't get the calories, your brain is tricked into making you hungrier at your next meal to make up the deficit.
    I agree with this 75%. I would not use the word "bad" as I feel the binary nature of the way we look at food creates misinformation and unnecessary guilt. You are correct that some people will seek out extra calories after consuming artificial sweeteners. But there are other studies that show they can be effective in reducing overall caloric intake in the right setting and decreasing A1C levels. All of this with the huge caveat that nutritional studies are incredibly difficult to rigorously perform and that a large majority of studies have huge methodological flaws that make their findings at best, meaningless or just flat out wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I have complete control over all of this. There is no power forcing me not to eat right and exercise. I'm simply trying to do this in the laziest, least morally demanding possible way. A man with 60k Cafe posts, most of which run to 100+ words, is clearly not naturally attracted to healthy living.
    I think that if you’re not below 200 by Election Day you have to vote for Trump! That should be all the motivation you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I think that if you’re not below 200 by Election Day you have to vote for Trump! That should be all the motivation you need.
    Jesus. I... Jesus, man. That's worth considering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I've never really had an issue with sticking to water, unsweetened tea, and black coffee.
    This is good advice. Liquid calories are some of the sneakiest. If I recall, kep does not like coffee which is a shame. Black coffee is an excellent appetite suppressant.

    Kep if you can find something in the three above that is an acceptable substitute for something in your diet, it would go a long way. Only you know yourself well enough to know if it will work or not. Remember, if you are absolutely miserable it is likely not sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    Just exercise.
    It’s very difficult to lose significant weight through exercise alone if you eat like ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by French Rage View Post
    Just exercise.
    Not that Kep shouldn’t exercise, but cutting calories is easier. But seriously Kep, at least go for walks or do some sit ups or push ups or something.

    Make your own lunches. I don’t actually know the calories in my lunches I bring from home, but I know they’re healthier than my coworker who gets McDonald’s or tacos or subs everyday.

    Replace the pop with coffee and water.

    If you start feeling hungry and it’s not near mealtime, drink a glass of water and see if you’re still hungry. I’ve tried doing this more the past year and it’s amazing how much less I snack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinWildcard View Post
    This is good advice. Liquid calories are some of the sneakiest. If I recall, kep does not like coffee which is a shame. Black coffee is an excellent appetite suppressant.
    I'm actually more into fancy tea these days - I get loose tea imported from Taiwan and China via a store in San Fran (yes, I'm THAT guy ). But I still drink black coffee when I travel to clients and it's not convenient to bring bags of loose tea with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    One thing I have done is break an 8-soda per day (not an exaggeration) home habit by going strictly to 0-cal soda. Still have to do something about the caffeine, though.
    I drink seltzer instead of soda (zero calories, no artificial sweetener) and a ton of unsweetened tea (hot and iced). They just added a “hydration station” at work with three different flavored waters (basically water coolers with things like sliced lemons or watermelon and mint floating in the water). That’s helped me cut back on the tea

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