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  • #16
    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    Schumer needs to retire. He's starting to look like "Useless Harry Reid" as Rover used to call him.
    Yes

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    • #17
      Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
      Schumer needs to retire. He's starting to look like "Useless Harry Reid" as Rover used to call him.
      Chuck is a Wall Street Democrat. He is completely out of touch with where we are headed as a party and a country. He, Gillibrand, and Cuomo are all on the wrong side of history. It is about time the NY Democratic party started producing legitimate liberals.
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      • #18
        Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        Iowa or NC seems doable (Iowa probably moreso than NC)
        NC is tricky. On the one hand the fix is in and the GOP vote suppression there is shameless. On the other hand Raleigh-Durham grew by about 20% the last decade and those are all educated northerners swarming in to drown the Jesse Helms MAGAts.

        Like VA, the GOP will be able to hold the gate for a bit longer with more and more ludicrously dirty pool but when the dam breaks that's it. VA went from red to blue with no purple interregnum. NC will do the same -- its only a matter of how long the syphilitic status quo can hold on.
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        • #19
          Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

          Originally posted by aparch View Post
          That's not a miss. Axne barely won her congressional seat - she carried 1 out 20 counties in the district. Granted it was the one with people in it (Polk county - aka Des Moines), but she couldn't even peel off Dallas County, which is the major suburban one. No way she wins a statewide race.

          The Dems need to build up the undercard in Iowa. They got decimated 10 years ago, and are only now recovering. It doesn't help that Tom Miller, the longest serving AG in the country and nominally the top ranking Dem in the state, has never sent any of his lieutenants to higher office in the last 40 years.

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          • #20
            Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

            A few thoughts...

            1) Schumer is the least of our worries right now. Lets first gain the majority and then kick off the great purges within the party, not beforehand.

            2) I think people are sick of Collins' disingenuous BS, which is going to cost her a lot more than when she'd escape with some favorable press from friendly reporters and by waving to the peasants in the airport. The money the opposition raised for her unnamed challenger is no small amount by Maine standards.

            3) Regarding NC, IIRC prior state elections were run with total GOP control of the government. Now the Gov, SoS and courts are all controlled by Dem, making voter suppression and those mysterious election night voting machine breakdowns that always seem to happen in Dem precincts that much harder to pull off.

            4) If the bench just started to get rebuilt in Iowa in 2016, then look to an outsider. Similar thing happened in AZ (although they have a few more long serving Dem congresscritters) so the party went outside the norm and recruiting Gabby Giffords hubby to run. A smart get although he may not have the primary to himself which is okay.
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            • #21
              Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

              1) No need to wait. The Constitution actually allows you to challenge a sitting Member. If Schumer sucks, primary him. Simple.

              2) One would hope so but she's been pulling this sh-t forever. Why would we get a different result now? Is Maine improving? My impression is like the midwest it's going to wrong way.

              3) The pressure keeps on building up behind the wall and the GOP keeps cheating to stave off the inevitable and rip off the state for another cycle, but eventually they will be swept away. Rednecks could't breed faster than techies could immigrate into Maryland, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, Virginia, or Nevada, either.

              4) Giffords' husband is a consummate insider. He's part of the same power structure. About the only thing novel about him is he had a better run of extramarital infidelity than a Kennedy or a Dump -- it was legendary inside the Beltway and soon it will be all over everything.
              Last edited by Kepler; 04-30-2019, 01:50 PM.
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              • #22
                Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                Quinny poll shows Biden pretty far out ahead early. Probably explains my facebook full of how awful Biden is this week all of a sudden

                Biden 38
                Warren 12
                Bernie 11
                Buttgieg 10
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                • #23
                  Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                  Name recognition is a helluva drug.
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                  • #24
                    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                    Voters oppose 59 - 36 percent raising the tax rate to 70 percent on individual income that is over $10 million
                    Idiots.

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                    • #25
                      Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      Idiots.
                      Which voters? All?

                      That's depressing.
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                      • #26
                        Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                        Idiots.
                        likely voters?
                        voters of age?

                        70 is a bit much... could make one surmise that if lawmakers find that acceptable then what's to say 40% of 75k income
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                        • #27
                          Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Name recognition is a helluva drug.
                          Warren is eating at Bernie's support.
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                          • #28
                            Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                            Also, it looks like Sanders still has a non-white and female problem. Quelle surprise.

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                            • #29
                              Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

                              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                              70 is a bit much... could make one surmise that if lawmakers find that acceptable then what's to say 40% of 75k income
                              That's ridiculous.

                              We can't fine people for speeding because then the cops will be emboldened to arrest people going 30.

                              Try again.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                                likely voters?
                                voters of age?

                                70 is a bit much... could make one surmise that if lawmakers find that acceptable then what's to say 40% of 75k income
                                I guess it would just need to be explained to "one" that the difference between 10,000,000 and 75,000 is much greater than the difference between 70% and 40%.

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