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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    It seemed obvious to me that when Ilhan was challenging the priorities of Members sucking up to AIPAC she was challenging them as AIPAC, not as Jews.

    American Jews are fine.

    Israeli Jews are irrelevant.

    AIPAC is a pressure group and like any pressure group is either useful or not depending on whether it coincides with US interests. To the extent it hides behind accusations of anti-semiticism as a human shield it can go f-ck itself right in its Gaza strip.
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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    She never said similar things about Jews. Find one quote where she said anything anti-semitic, I'll wait, I've been waiting for months actually since you keep bringing this up and then dodging the part where you actually need to bring factual evidence to the conversation.

    And there's literally no reason to preface with "as an American" when everybody knows full well that you're an American. At best it was a dumb comment that wasn't intended to be bigoted but we all know intent only matters so much in that context.

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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Meanwhile, back to the actual race: https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/12...ead-in-nevada/

    I like the trajectory of Lizzy's campaign. Not only does she have by far the most thoughtful platform out there with a plan for..well, everything. But she's establishing herself as the alternative if/when Uncle Joe stumbles. Nevada will be driven in large part by whether or not Harry Reid puts his turnout machine behind one particular candidate, but if he stays out of it and Bernie rightfully drops out Warren + Sanders support in this poll starts nipping at Biden's heels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    It seemed obvious to me that when Ilhan was challenging the priorities of Members sucking up to AIPAC she was challenging them as AIPAC, not as Jews.

    American Jews are fine.

    Israeli Jews are irrelevant.

    AIPAC is a pressure group and like any pressure group is either useful or not depending on whether it coincides with US interests. To the extent it hides behind accusations of anti-semiticism as a human shield it can go f-ck itself right in its Gaza strip.
    This is months old.... why still being discussed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    This is months old.... why still being discussed?
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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    This is months old.... why still being discussed?
    Ask the guy who keeps falsely labeling Ilhan an anti-semite against all possible evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    She never said similar things about Jews. Find one quote where she said anything anti-semitic, I'll wait, I've been waiting for months actually since you keep bringing this up and then dodging the part where you actually need to bring factual evidence to the conversation.

    And there's literally no reason to preface with "as an American" when everybody knows full well that you're an American. At best it was a dumb comment that wasn't intended to be bigoted but we all know intent only matters so much in that context.
    So Chelsea is Anti Muslim because she called herself an American...sure thing jellybean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Ask the guy who keeps falsely labeling Ilhan an anti-semite against all possible evidence.
    One day son you will learn to read. I SAID I DON'T BELIEVE SHE IS AN ANTISEMITE! This isn't hard man letters form words, words form sentences, sentences convey thoughts and thoughts explain things.

    But here let me break it down for you...neither are racist. (neither was Politico) Only one of us is labeling and it ain't me it is you.

    Now back to the polls and who is winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Meanwhile, back to the actual race: https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/12...ead-in-nevada/

    I like the trajectory of Lizzy's campaign. Not only does she have by far the most thoughtful platform out there with a plan for..well, everything. But she's establishing herself as the alternative if/when Uncle Joe stumbles. Nevada will be driven in large part by whether or not Harry Reid puts his turnout machine behind one particular candidate, but if he stays out of it and Bernie rightfully drops out Warren + Sanders support in this poll starts nipping at Biden's heels.
    Warren is doing better than I expected to be sure. Makes me happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    So Chelsea is Anti Muslim because she called herself an American...sure thing jellybean.
    Who on earth doesn’t think chelsea is an American and why the need to preface it that way? I’ll wait...

    And yes you’ve constantly referred to Ilhan’s “antisemitic” tweets so don’t try and change the narrative after you’re asked for proof knowing full well you don’t have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Also Nate Silver is laughably bad as a political pundit.
    His track record is miles ahead of yours, sparky.

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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Our Dead President with some insight on 2020 & possibly 2024

    @dick_nixon: Yes, the Democrats mostly care about who can win. That gets them up in the morning. But let's be honest with ourselves: who hits the ground running for Biden?

    @dick_nixon: "Me," you might say, if the choice is between Biden and Trump. But precisely the problem with the Clinton campaign is a lot of people felt there was no positive motivating factor in it.

    @dick_nixon: Hell, at least Clinton had women coming out on principle.

    @dick_nixon: I understand the thought of a tourniquet is appealing. But say Biden squeaks through. You get four years of gridlock if you're lucky, some executive orders, "summits." Then a full-fledged Tea Party of the left and Tom Cotton in '24.

    @dick_nixon: This isn't opinion and it's not a threat. This will happen.

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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Quote Originally Posted by trixR4kids View Post
    Who on earth doesn’t think chelsea is an American and why the need to preface it that way? I’ll wait...
    KEPLER!!! That was an easy one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Our Dead President with some insight on 2020 & possibly 2024

    @dick_nixon: Yes, the Democrats mostly care about who can win. That gets them up in the morning. But let's be honest with ourselves: who hits the ground running for Biden?

    @dick_nixon: "Me," you might say, if the choice is between Biden and Trump. But precisely the problem with the Clinton campaign is a lot of people felt there was no positive motivating factor in it.

    @dick_nixon: Hell, at least Clinton had women coming out on principle.

    @dick_nixon: I understand the thought of a tourniquet is appealing. But say Biden squeaks through. You get four years of gridlock if you're lucky, some executive orders, "summits." Then a full-fledged Tea Party of the left and Tom Cotton in '24.

    @dick_nixon: This isn't opinion and it's not a threat. This will happen.
    Sure. But, why would anyone in their right mind vote for Tom Cotton? Have you listened to him be interviewed? You'd have to be a grade "A" moron to vote for him for anything. I wouldn't even vote for him for dogcatcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Sure. But, why would anyone in their right mind vote for Tom Cotton? Have you listened to him be interviewed? You'd have to be a grade "A" moron to vote for him for anything. I wouldn't even vote for him for dogcatcher.
    America voted for tD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    America voted for tD.
    Sure. And America is a moron nation.
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    Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Sure. And America is a moron nation.
    No we aren't. We are a nation with about 33% morons. That's probably par.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    America voted for tD.
    You misspelled Electoral College.

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