2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

How long are the debates again? And I can't wait until one of the idiots like Hickenlooper just gets audibly booed for whining about socialism like that one guy did the other day (Delaney?).

OTOH, this is Inslee's dream draw. He can turn everything into "Hey you as-sholes, did you know we're ALL GOING TO DIE?!" and nobody else will be on the same field with him. He's going to wind up either looking like a complete kook or a solid pro.

Well anyone who supports the green new deal is in the same boat as him and that's literally his only issue.

[Rover]

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I think Lizzy got a favorable draw here. Its a bunch of never-were's plus O'Rourke while Bernie, Biden, Kamala, and Mayor Pete slug it out in the 2nd debate. Warren basically got the equivalent of the Patriots regular season schedule.

[Spartanforlife4]

I think Lizzy got a favorable draw here. Its a bunch of never-were's plus O'Rourke while Bernie, Biden, Kamala, and Mayor Pete slug it out in the 2nd debate. Warren basically got the equivalent of the Patriots regular season schedule.

Weren’t all the Pats losses to non-playoff teams?

[Rover]

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Weren’t all the Pats losses to non-playoff teams?

I think you're right. IIRC Jax, Steelers, Tennessee, Miami and Detroit...

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Warren's only real threats in that first debate are Klobuchar, and maybe Beto. Klobuchar will probably attack Warren for being too lefty and out of touch with flyovers. On paper O'Rourke is just a Kennedy-esque pretty boy with a nice smile, but if he plays his empty platitudes right, he could get a solid bump out of this first round by staying above the fray.

Warren is Notre Dame, and everyone else in that bracket is Bemidji State. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. We shall see how well-prepared she is.

[The Rube]

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Warren's only real threats in that first debate are Klobuchar, and maybe Beto. Klobuchar will probably attack Warren for being too lefty and out of touch with flyovers. On paper O'Rourke is just a Kennedy-esque pretty boy with a nice smile, but if he plays his empty platitudes right, he could get a solid bump out of this first round by staying above the fray.

Warren is Notre Dame, and everyone else in that bracket is Bemidji State. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. We shall see how well-prepared she is.

Flyovers for sure as far as Klobuchar goes. Maybe pulls a "you fell for Trump's Pocahontas trap" (maybe a hint of that). Amy K has already said Trump will call her a [female dog] etc, so let's talk about the issues and move on.

[mookie1995]

I think Lizzy got a favorable draw here. Its a bunch of never-were's plus O'Rourke while Bernie, Biden, Kamala, and Mayor Pete slug it out in the 2nd debate. Warren basically got the equivalent of the Patriots regular season schedule.

So this will be the SB for everyone to make bones attaching her

[joecct]

So this will be the SB for everyone to make bones attaching her

So now she's a Shaman? Yikes, mookie.

[Handyman]

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Well, looks like the lottery screwed Warren. She appears on Night One and Bernie and Biden are both on night two.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ebate-n1017676

Totally disagree. She is going to look like a genius compared to her bunch and gain way more than she would if she kills it. (which she will) She is in the a great position for a bevy of reasons.

Incidentally, saw some Bernie Bro twitter bloggers already hinting at what their attacks on Warren will be. The posts got little traction but they are just sowing the seeds right now so they can reference them later.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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I'm going to guess the Berners will say she is a connected, wealthy elitist who has worked too closely with Wall Street in the past to be trusted (even if it was to oppose a lot of their lobbying attempts). I'll also guess they will say she has had too much negative press in the last couple of years, and therefore can't beat Trump.

[Handyman]

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I think Lizzy got a favorable draw here. Its a bunch of never-were's plus O'Rourke while Bernie, Biden, Kamala, and Mayor Pete slug it out in the 2nd debate. Warren basically got the equivalent of the Patriots regular season schedule.

This is how I see it as well. She is getting basically a guarantee to face the Big Dogs later (after they beat up on each other in this debate) after she has shined and taken down the also rans. Beto and the rest wont be able to touch her on anything. Booker cant hold her jock on any subject and Klobuchar will be out of her element against her. Even if they all gang up on her her record beats almost all of them and she can outargue all of them.

Meanwhile her staff gets to watch the others debate and pick the vulnerable fruit and attack it. Of the leaders one is going to fall off because of that debate. Warren already is amongst the leaders in polling, and will likely stay there in a more solid position once one of the Debate B people falls off.

If I was her staff I would be dancing a gig. (while publicly pretending it is concerning) She got a bye in the first round. Christ if I didnt know better I would jokingly say they rigged it for her.

[Kepler]

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So now she's a Shaman? Yikes, mookie.

Very nice.

[Handyman]

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I'm going to guess the Berners will say she is a connected, wealthy elitist who has worked too closely with Wall Street in the past to be trusted (even if it was to oppose a lot of their lobbying attempts). I'll also guess they will say she has had too much negative press in the last couple of years, and therefore can't beat Trump.

The first part was what was floated the most. The second part will come out if Bernie falls off more to be sure.

I have done a 180 on Warren in many ways. I always liked her but never thought she would be the nominee or I would really want her to be. At this point though, outside or 1 other candidate, I cant think of one that would be MORE perfect to go after Trump and put the fate of the nation on the line for. She is a clear difference to him, she is everything he isnt on every level. There is no mistaking it. The future of what this country will be will come down to a simple choice. Either the people want something better or they dont.

Now I do think the Pocahontas BS will haunt her a bit...but unlike most pols she doesnt run away from it she will go after it which is something that will screw up Trump's ability to use it. Hopefully it wont involve publicity stunt DNA tests...but either way she has the balls to defuse the bomb instead of running away like a baby. Plus, unlike other pols, she wont hold back on taking him down over his stupidity. She wont just call him "Putin's Puppet" (which was still probably the highlight of Hillary's campaign) she will break it down. She wont just make the comment she will continue to push it until he is on tilt. She wont sit idly by as rumors go around about her. (remember the "Hillary is sick or dying" crap) She will be out the next hour going..."uh hi I aint dead you nimrods". And when the media is complicit to Trump she will make sure they know about it.