2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

It seemed obvious to me that when Ilhan was challenging the priorities of Members sucking up to AIPAC she was challenging them as AIPAC, not as Jews.

American Jews are fine.

Israeli Jews are irrelevant.

AIPAC is a pressure group and like any pressure group is either useful or not depending on whether it coincides with US interests. To the extent it hides behind accusations of anti-semiticism as a human shield it can go f-ck itself right in its Gaza strip.

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

She never said similar things about Jews. Find one quote where she said anything anti-semitic, I'll wait, I've been waiting for months actually since you keep bringing this up and then dodging the part where you actually need to bring factual evidence to the conversation.

And there's literally no reason to preface with "as an American" when everybody knows full well that you're an American. At best it was a dumb comment that wasn't intended to be bigoted but we all know intent only matters so much in that context.

[Rover]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

Meanwhile, back to the actual race: https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/12...ead-in-nevada/

I like the trajectory of Lizzy's campaign. Not only does she have by far the most thoughtful platform out there with a plan for..well, everything. But she's establishing herself as the alternative if/when Uncle Joe stumbles. Nevada will be driven in large part by whether or not Harry Reid puts his turnout machine behind one particular candidate, but if he stays out of it and Bernie rightfully drops out Warren + Sanders support in this poll starts nipping at Biden's heels.

[mookie1995]

It seemed obvious to me that when Ilhan was challenging the priorities of Members sucking up to AIPAC she was challenging them as AIPAC, not as Jews.

American Jews are fine.

Israeli Jews are irrelevant.

AIPAC is a pressure group and like any pressure group is either useful or not depending on whether it coincides with US interests. To the extent it hides behind accusations of anti-semiticism as a human shield it can go f-ck itself right in its Gaza strip.

This is months old.... why still being discussed?

[Kepler]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

This is months old.... why still being discussed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRzsUVXXMyE

[trixR4kids]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

This is months old.... why still being discussed?

Ask the guy who keeps falsely labeling Ilhan an anti-semite against all possible evidence.

[Slap Shot]

Re: 2020 Democrat Challengers Part II: There Can Be Only One

This week's new Economist/YouGov poll also has Warren up with the best favorability ratings.

% favorable minus % unfavorable, among Democrats:

Warren: 50
Biden: 43
Sanders: 43
Harris: 41
Buttigieg: 40
Booker: 34
O'Rourke: 31

— G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) June 12, 2019

NEW 2020 Dem. poll from The Economist/YouGov: Warren pulls ahead of Sanders & into 2nd place (w/in margin of error). This wk & change vs last wk:

Biden: 26% (-1)
Warren: 16 (+5)
Sanders: 12 (-4)
Buttigieg: 8 (-1)
Harris: 6 (-1)
O'Rourke: 3 (+1)

Typical caveat re: watch the avgs

— G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) June 12, 2019

[Handyman]

She never said similar things about Jews. Find one quote where she said anything anti-semitic, I'll wait, I've been waiting for months actually since you keep bringing this up and then dodging the part where you actually need to bring factual evidence to the conversation.

And there's literally no reason to preface with "as an American" when everybody knows full well that you're an American. At best it was a dumb comment that wasn't intended to be bigoted but we all know intent only matters so much in that context.

So Chelsea is Anti Muslim because she called herself an American...sure thing jellybean.

[Handyman]

Ask the guy who keeps falsely labeling Ilhan an anti-semite against all possible evidence.

One day son you will learn to read. I SAID I DON'T BELIEVE SHE IS AN ANTISEMITE! This isn't hard man letters form words, words form sentences, sentences convey thoughts and thoughts explain things.

But here let me break it down for you...neither are racist. (neither was Politico) Only one of us is labeling and it ain't me it is you.

Now back to the polls and who is winning.

[Handyman]

Meanwhile, back to the actual race: https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/12...ead-in-nevada/

I like the trajectory of Lizzy's campaign. Not only does she have by far the most thoughtful platform out there with a plan for..well, everything. But she's establishing herself as the alternative if/when Uncle Joe stumbles. Nevada will be driven in large part by whether or not Harry Reid puts his turnout machine behind one particular candidate, but if he stays out of it and Bernie rightfully drops out Warren + Sanders support in this poll starts nipping at Biden's heels.

Warren is doing better than I expected to be sure. Makes me happy

[trixR4kids]

So Chelsea is Anti Muslim because she called herself an American...sure thing jellybean.

Who on earth doesn’t think chelsea is an American and why the need to preface it that way? I’ll wait...

And yes you’ve constantly referred to Ilhan’s “antisemitic” tweets so don’t try and change the narrative after you’re asked for proof knowing full well you don’t have it.

[unofan]

Also Nate Silver is laughably bad as a political pundit.

His track record is miles ahead of yours, sparky.

[trixR4kids]

“Bernie is old!”
“Oh my god what amazing analysis!”

[joecct]

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Our Dead President with some insight on 2020 & possibly 2024

@dick_nixon: Yes, the Democrats mostly care about who can win. That gets them up in the morning. But let's be honest with ourselves: who hits the ground running for Biden?

@dick_nixon: "Me," you might say, if the choice is between Biden and Trump. But precisely the problem with the Clinton campaign is a lot of people felt there was no positive motivating factor in it.

@dick_nixon: Hell, at least Clinton had women coming out on principle.

@dick_nixon: I understand the thought of a tourniquet is appealing. But say Biden squeaks through. You get four years of gridlock if you're lucky, some executive orders, "summits." Then a full-fledged Tea Party of the left and Tom Cotton in '24.

@dick_nixon: This isn't opinion and it's not a threat. This will happen.

[Rover]

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Who on earth doesn’t think chelsea is an American and why the need to preface it that way? I’ll wait...

KEPLER!!! That was an easy one!