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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    No, you weren't. You may have thought you were, but I could've shown it to my wife and it would've been gibberish to her.

    The simple answer was "yes, a team can form and win 20-something straight games and win the US Open Cup."

    What you said was there are regional qualifiers, with no explanation for how those are determined or if, in theory, anyone could win one ala Dodgeball.
    It was quite clear:
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    This is the real first round. The rest is qualifying for amateur clubs, of which 8 qualify for this round along with 14 NPSL, 10 USL2, 6 USL1 teams to get here. Anyone under the "Local Qualifiers" has the chance to be a cinderella. 5 of them one their 1st round match.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    The FA Cup has qualifying rounds too ya know.

    Any registered club in the US can enter and go through the qualifying process.

    Edit: the FA Cup has only 32 non-League clubs in the proper tournament. Only 736 teams entered.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Even easier, was finding this in two clicks on Wikipedia:

    2019 US Open Cup Qualification.

    Relevant part:
    Clubs based in the United States that play in a league that is an organization member of U.S. Soccer are generally eligible to compete for the U.S. Open Cup, if their league includes at least four teams and has a schedule of at least 10 matches for each club.[2]
    The reference links to this: The 2019 Lamar Hunt US Open Cup Handbook.

    That took me less than five minutes after one Google search of ďUS Open CupĒ.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Jim you're wrong. You overreacted and you gave anything but a simple and precise answer to an innocuous question.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Taking the L and moving the conversation on (slightly), found this Twitter thread by the Chairman of Accrington Stanley, a League One (Third Division) team, talking finances in lower league soccer and pro/rel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Taking the L and moving the conversation on (slightly), found this Twitter thread by the Chairman of Accrington Stanley, a League One (Third Division) team, talking finances in lower league soccer and pro/rel.

    Well what is it?

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Well what is it?
    Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Youíll have to click on the tweet to read his entire thread but tl;dr:

    The prevailing thought is that as you rise up the ladder income goes up as well, that clubs can go into debt because promotion will garner more income to offset said debt. Income does go up slightly but it is offset by a significant increase in costs in keeping the team competitive. He states that outside of the Top 6 of the PL, most everyone is likely losing money or barely profitable. On the other end, relegating out of D3 is also worse because thereís a huge risk of one bad season causing you to relegate from D4 and out of the Football League altogether and causing a huge financial disaster that you canít recover from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Youíll have to click on the tweet to read his entire thread but tl;dr:

    The prevailing thought is that as you rise up the ladder income goes up as well, that clubs can go into debt because promotion will garner more income to offset said debt. Income does go up slightly but it is offset by a significant increase in costs in keeping the team competitive. He states that outside of the Top 6 of the PL, most everyone is likely losing money or barely profitable. On the other end, relegating out of D3 is also worse because thereís a huge risk of one bad season causing you to relegate from D4 and out of the Football League altogether and causing a huge financial disaster that you canít recover from.
    Well then it is money

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    @NESN: The New England Revolution name Bruce Arena as their new head coach and sporting director. @ItsRachelHolt shares the story. https://twitter.com/NESN/status/1128...984640/video/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    @NESN: The New England Revolution name Bruce Arena as their new head coach and sporting director. @ItsRachelHolt shares the story. https://twitter.com/NESN/status/1128...984640/video/1
    Lol I saw that earlier. What a hilariously New England type move. Maybe theyíll get above Orlando.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    US Open Cup Second Round started last night. One major upset with amateur side Florida Soccer Soldiers beating USL-Championship side Charlotte Independence on Kicks.

    Other than that, USL-C sides ruled the day winning the other matches.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    USLC sides ruled the day again with the exception of Forward Madison (the only USL1 side to survive) and Orange County FC (OCFC)...the only NPSL side to survive. We're down to 19 USLC teams, one each from USL1, NPSL, LQs plus the 21 MLS sides which will join in after the next round. Go OCFC, Forward Madison and Florida Soccer Soldiers (LQ)!
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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    ******* none of that resonates for me at all. Not a knock on you but on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    USLC sides ruled the day again with the exception of Forward Madison (the only USL1 side to survive) and Orange County FC (OCFC)...the only NPSL side to survive. We're down to 19 USLC teams, one each from USL1, NPSL, LQs plus the 21 MLS sides which will join in after the next round. Go OCFC, Forward Madison and Florida Soccer Soldiers (LQ)!
    I think Forward Madisonís success is a combination of social media game and these sweet jerseys:

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    I think Forward Madisonís success is a combination of social media game and these sweet jerseys:
    their whole launch has been great! Got myself a scarf.
    Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits...Posted by Yager on 12/18/09: Remember, remember, the 18th of October (2003).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    ******* none of that resonates for me at all. Not a knock on you but on me.
    Itís not too much of knock. Not too many folks know much about the Open Cup, youíd have to be a pretty dedicated fan, a fan of a minor league team, or heavily involved in US Soccer (like me as a referee) to really know about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    their whole launch has been great! Got myself a scarf.
    Iíd settle for a T-shirt myself, though a scarf would be nice.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    BTW, tomorrow's FA Cup final is on ESPN+.

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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    Wondo breaks Donovan's MLS goal record.

    Cornell '04, Stanford '06


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    Re: World Soccer XXIX: Pro/Rel USA! just kidding!

    2022 WC staying at 32 teams.

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