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    2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Warren needs to find that delicate balance of explaining things without sounding condescending towards the voters. I think that will be her biggest struggle.

    I still think she would make a better cabinet member or senator than president. Id vote for her in a heartbeat though.

    In terms of presidential material, I still think the field lacks a person cast from that perfect mold. No one strikes me as a world leader. There are definitely a few that would grow into it. Warren, Biden (but probably too old), Harris, probably Klobuchar. Honestly, they are all cabinet members. Biden is a SoS, Klobuchar Attorney General, Warren is commerce or labor, Yang would fill the other, Inslee EPA, Bullock interior, Castro HUD

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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

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    Warren needs to find that delicate balance of explaining things without sounding condescending towards the voters. I think that will be her biggest struggle.

    I still think she would make a better cabinet member or senator than president. Id vote for her in a heartbeat though.

    In terms of presidential material, I still think the field lacks a person cast from that perfect mold. No one strikes me as a world leader. There are definitely a few that would grow into it. Warren, Biden (but probably too old), Harris, probably Klobuchar. Honestly, they are all cabinet members. Biden is a SoS, Klobuchar Attorney General, Warren is commerce or labor, Yang would fill the other, Inslee EPA, Bullock interior, Castro HUD
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    What's with the love of cabinet seat holders?? They are just mouthpieces

    Ben carson?!? Hey now
    Even Betsy just said what she was told to... all "serve at the pleasure of"

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    She should not leave the Senate for a cabinet spot...that is a waste. She either runs for Prez or stays put.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    She should not leave the Senate for a cabinet spot...that is a waste. She either runs for Prez or stays put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    She should not leave the Senate for a cabinet spot...that is a waste. She either runs for Prez or stays put.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    This battleground tracker poll is a good example of why Sanders and Warren need to consolidate their support behind one candidate to go toe to toe with Uncle Joe. My preference obviously is for Bernie to take one for the team and endorse Warren as she's the better candidate.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-new...-close-behind/

    All this is way early of course, but does anybody not think Warren and Sanders are competing for the same portion of the Dem base?
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    This battleground tracker poll is a good example of why Sanders and Warren need to consolidate their support behind one candidate to go toe to toe with Uncle Joe. My preference obviously is for Bernie to take one for the team and endorse Warren as she's the better candidate.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-new...-close-behind/

    All this is way early of course, but does anybody not think Warren and Sanders are competing for the same portion of the Dem base?
    If neither of them are able to make a dent into Biden's control of the African American vote it won't matter how much consolidation happens.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    If neither of them are able to make a dent into Biden's control of the African American vote it won't matter how much consolidation happens.
    Biden's at about a third and that may be his high point. Sanders + Warren is a larger slice of the pie now and it may grow, particularly if the economy falters.

    Long, long way to go. I assume Sanders and Warren have a working deal where whoever is trailing on day x withdraws, endorses, and works for the other. Ideally day x is a month or so before any delegates are committed, which would make it about New Years Day.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    She should not leave the Senate for a cabinet spot...that is a waste. She either runs for Prez or stays put.
    I assume this was a reply to my post in the other thread?

    Either way, I completely agree. My point was that all of the candidates are experts in a certain area as opposed to being a head of state. Or at least what we used to think of as a head of state.

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    I can't figure out what black people see in guys like Biden. An old, white, entrenched DC elitist who is "blue collar" just because he drops the occasional f-bomb on live TV? A guy who basically blew off Anita Hill's testimony? Really?
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I can't figure out what black people see in guys like Biden. An old, white, entrenched DC elitist who is "blue collar" just because he drops the occasional f-bomb on live TV? A guy who basically blew off Anita Hill's testimony? Really?
    It's the same reason 53% of white women voted for a ***** grabber who said he wanted to lock them up if they ever needed an abortion.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I assume Sanders and Warren have a working deal where whoever is trailing on day x withdraws, endorses, and works for the other. Ideally day x is a month or so before any delegates are committed, which would make it about New Years Day.
    I wouldn't necessarily assume this. They're both going to take it to at least New Hampshire and I would guess Super Tuesday as well.

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    I can't figure out what black people see in guys like Biden. An old, white, entrenched DC elitist who is "blue collar" just because he drops the occasional f-bomb on live TV? A guy who basically blew off Anita Hill's testimony? Really?
    1) Link to Obama. 2) Nobody else has really stepped up including Harris and Booker. 3) There's no candidate from the region (a Stacy Adams for example). Closest thing is O'Rourke, a middle aged white guy.
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    Surprised Trump hasn't tried to make "Boring Biden" stick yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I can't figure out what black people see in guys like Biden.
    I wouldn't be surprised if there is a generational split in black support for Biden. Older black voters are on the Clinton Plantation. They know the Democratic machine of folks like Donna Brazile, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangle, Elijah Cummings. These are old school, institutional, and completely dialed into (and compromised by) the traditional funding sources and media channels within the DNC.

    Younger black voters are probably not going to follow that machine, particularly since young black liberal leaders now have their own voices and are not being mediated through either the white establishment of the party or the Civil Rights-Black Church Industrial Complex that was King's legacy.
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

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    Surprised Trump hasn't tried to make "Boring Biden" stick yet.
    The media was all proud of him when he was just calling Nancy, Nancy. Now it's "Nervous Nancy".
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if there is a generational split in black support for Biden. Older black voters are on the Clinton Plantation. They know the Democratic machine of folks like Donna Brazile, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangle, Elijah Cummings. These are old school, institutional, and completely dialed into (and compromised by) the traditional funding sources and media channels within the DNC.

    Younger black voters are probably not going to follow that machine, particularly since young black liberal leaders now have their own voices and are not being mediated through either the white establishment of the party or the Civil Rights-Black Church Industrial Complex that was King's legacy.
    So you WILL be adding racism to your repertoire of misogyny if your candidate doesn't win! Good to know.

    You ought to be beaten senseless for comparing Rangle to Cummings but since they're both older blacks I guess every one of them is the same in Kep's view?
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    Re: 2020 Democratic Challengers III: The Wrath of Warren

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    This battleground tracker poll is a good example of why Sanders and Warren need to consolidate their support behind one candidate to go toe to toe with Uncle Joe. My preference obviously is for Bernie to take one for the team and endorse Warren as she's the better candidate.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-new...-close-behind/

    All this is way early of course, but does anybody not think Warren and Sanders are competing for the same portion of the Dem base?
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