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  • #256
    Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

    Could it be that Notre Dame isn't in an active warzone with extreme instability? Just a thought...
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    • #257
      Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      Could it be that Notre Dame isn't in an active warzone with extreme instability? Just a thought...
      It is being rebuilt, and they are still accepting donations. Think the US government is going to donate a dime? Just a thought...

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      • #258
        Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

        Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
        It is being rebuilt, and they are still accepting donations. Think the US government is going to donate a dime? Just a thought...
        We have a government run by a racist, so of course not. The House was just recently taken back over by adults.

        What point are you trying to make? That Trump and the Republicans are bad? Point taken I guess.
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        Originally posted by SanTropez
        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
        Originally posted by Kepler
        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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        • #259
          Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          We have a government run by a racist, so of course not. The House was just recently taken back over by adults.

          What point are you trying to make? That Trump and the Republicans are bad? Point taken I guess.
          The point is that we live in the United States with a separation of church and state. Tax dollars are not supposed to be used to endorse any religion anywhere. Which is exactly what we are doing. More to the point, we are doing so to support a white, Western European, Catholic church and letting any other religious institution fend for itself. Kepler and others are going to argue that the Notre Dame cathedral has value beyond that of a religious structure to which I'll suggest that a monument even older than Notre Dame had at least as much, if not more, value. We've already established that tax dollars shouldn't be wasted on insignificant things like human beings living in our own country, but I feel it is important to point out that we also see religions other than historically white, Christian religions as insignificant too. I know the usual suspects are about to chime in with cries that I'm playing the race card, but I'll point out the inconvenient truth that the same government pledging our tax dollars to rebuild a church in France hasn't even mentioned the three churches burned in 10 days by a white supremacist in Louisiana.

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          • #260
            Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
            The point is that we live in the United States with a separation of church and state. Tax dollars are not supposed to be used to endorse any religion anywhere. Which is exactly what we are doing. More to the point, we are doing so to support a white, Western European, Catholic church and letting any other religious institution fend for itself. Kepler and others are going to argue that the Notre Dame cathedral has value beyond that of a religious structure to which I'll suggest that a monument even older than Notre Dame had at least as much, if not more, value. We've already established that tax dollars shouldn't be wasted on insignificant things like human beings living in our own country, but I feel it is important to point out that we also see religions other than historically white, Christian religions as insignificant too. I know the usual suspects are about to chime in with cries that I'm playing the race card, but I'll point out the inconvenient truth that the same government pledging our tax dollars to rebuild a church in France hasn't even mentioned the three churches burned in 10 days by a white supremacist in Louisiana.
            Splitting hairs, but since 1905 the French Government owns all the cathedrals that were in France then. One could claim that US $$ going to rebuild ND is a form of foreign aid.
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            • #261
              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Splitting hairs, but since 1905 the French Government owns all the cathedrals that were in France then. One could claim that US $$ going to rebuild ND is a form of foreign aid.
              Isn’t it currently managed by a charity jointly run by the Catholic Church and French ministry of culture?
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              • #262
                Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                Originally posted by ticapnews View Post
                I'm not thrilled that Sniffles is pledging my tax dollars to helping restore a church in another country. Maybe help rebuild Puerto Rico or get Flint some water.
                Where is this news story? The only one I found was a Medialite where he wants to "personally donate to rebuild" it.

                https://www.mediaite.com/online/whit...ld-notre-dame/

                Sure, most of his money has been grifted off our tax dollars since 1/20/2017, but I don't think there's going to be a "Give France Money for a church" bill passed through Congress anytime soon.
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                • #263
                  Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                  Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                  Sure, most of his money has been grifted off our tax dollars since 1/20/2017, but I don't think there's going to be a "Give France Money for a church" bill passed through Congress anytime soon.
                  The ACLU would melt down if that were to happen.
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                  • #264
                    Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                    Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
                    Isn’t it currently managed by a charity jointly run by the Catholic Church and French ministry of culture?
                    Like I said, France and the Vatican can pay for it. Our bank is closed*.

                    *unless you have oil, then prepare for a US-backed coup at any moment

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                    • #265
                      Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                      On one hand, Notre Dame is an important historical building, even if you only looked at the art and architecture; and yes, even it's religious history adds immensely to its important, as that reflects the impact it has had on history, and this is coming from a very non-religious person who appreciates history. Given all of that, I would be very much for whatever can be done to keep it in as great a shape as possible, as I would for pretty much any UNESCO site, religious or not.

                      That said, it will end up with no shortage of private and French-specific funding. I mean, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it's freaking Notre Dame yo. I don't know if we need to throw our taxpayer dollars at it, with plenty of our own problems.

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                      • #266
                        Originally posted by bronconick View Post
                        Where is this news story? The only one I found was a Medialite where he wants to "personally donate to rebuild" it.

                        https://www.mediaite.com/online/whit...ld-notre-dame/

                        Sure, most of his money has been grifted off our tax dollars since 1/20/2017, but I don't think there's going to be a "Give France Money for a church" bill passed through Congress anytime soon.
                        https://www.elitedaily.com/p/the-white-house-response-to-the-notre-dame-fire-is-raising-comparisons-to-flint-puerto-rico-17044821

                        Following the Notre Dame fire, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders released a statement on Tuesday, April 16 that the White House would assist in Notre Dame's rehabilitation. It's still unknown how much aid the Trump administration will send to Paris
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                        • #267
                          Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                          Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                          On one hand, Notre Dame is an important historical building, even if you only looked at the art and architecture; and yes, even it's religious history adds immensely to its important, as that reflects the impact it has had on history, and this is coming from a very non-religious person who appreciates history. Given all of that, I would be very much for whatever can be done to keep it in as great a shape as possible, as I would for pretty much any UNESCO site, religious or not.

                          That said, it will end up with no shortage of private and French-specific funding. I mean, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it's freaking Notre Dame yo. I don't know if we need to throw our taxpayer dollars at it, with plenty of our own problems.
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                          • #268
                            Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                            Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                            On one hand, Notre Dame is an important historical building, even if you only looked at the art and architecture; and yes, even it's religious history adds immensely to its important, as that reflects the impact it has had on history, and this is coming from a very non-religious person who appreciates history. Given all of that, I would be very much for whatever can be done to keep it in as great a shape as possible, as I would for pretty much any UNESCO site, religious or not.

                            That said, it will end up with no shortage of private and French-specific funding. I mean, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it's freaking Notre Dame yo. I don't know if we need to throw our taxpayer dollars at it, with plenty of our own problems.
                            The reconstruction/restoration effort has already collected $1B in funding from private sources. Then add in what the French gov't will kick in, and they really don't need any other help other than appreciated symbolic donations.
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                            • #269
                              Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              The reconstruction/restoration effort has already collected $1B in funding from private sources. Then add in what the French gov't will kick in, and they really don't need any other help other than appreciated symbolic donations.
                              The extra money might help them rebrand and add more features!

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                              Rover Frenchy, Classic! Great post.
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                              Ritt18 you are the perfect representation of your alma mater.
                              Miss Thundercat That's it, you win.
                              TBA#2 I want to kill you and dance in your blood.
                              DisplacedCornellian Hahaha. Thread over. Frenchy wins.

                              Test to see if I can add this.

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                              • #270
                                Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

                                Originally posted by French Rage View Post
                                The extra money might help them rebrand and add more features!
                                They could Bluetooth it! Everybody loves Bluetooth.
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