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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Oh, you're right, good catch! I did think that was ground level. I was wondering how in the hell the building had maintained structural integrity.
    Ditto. Also found myself asking "How did all of those pews not burn?!" This explains it.

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    Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

    I think a lot of credit has to go into the designers. While it would take some historical research to check on it- the design is actually pretty robust to fire- and I've seen some news that it was planned, given how common roof fires in churches are.

    It would be interesting if that were true.

    Especially since the rumor that trees were planted near Versailles for this specific purpose has been shown to be a rumor based on a single tweet. The trees are not even oaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    I think a lot of credit has to go into the designers. While it would take some historical research to check on it- the design is actually pretty robust to fire- and I've seen some news that it was planned, given how common roof fires in churches are.

    It would be interesting if that were true.

    Especially since the rumor that trees were planted near Versailles for this specific purpose has been shown to be a rumor based on a single tweet. The trees are not even oaks.
    Well, also... about 500 years before Versailles. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Wow:

    From @CatholicSat on Twitter:
    "The day after the night before at Notre Dame de Paris. The High Altar stands untouched with its gleaming Cross, and the Blessed Virgin weeping holding her dead Jesus in her arms. The modern Altar installed after Vatican II, lays under rubble from the collapsed roof."

    So much symbolism here--not the least of which is Mariological: like the typology of the Burning Bush, this Cathedral of Mary, Mother of God, was "alight, but never consumed".

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    Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

    The religious always find some sort of symbolism in everything. No doubt Muslim extremists are revelling in the symbolism of one of the greatest monuments to Christianity in flames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticapnews View Post
    If they do it is by choice. A 1905 law prohibits them from charging admission. That's true of any religious site in France.
    Oddly enough, the Notre Dame in Montreal charges (or at least they did when I was last there) admission for any secular activity, such as checking out the digs. If you are there for prayer, it is without cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    The religious always find some sort of symbolism in everything. No doubt Muslim extremists are revelling in the symbolism of one of the greatest monuments to Christianity in flames.
    https://www.newswars.com/french-stud...ut-notre-dame/

    https://www.newswars.com/not-everyon...ng-set-ablaze/

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/a...ring-holy-week

    But interestingly enough, the one that may win out is Christianity. Remember that there was quite a bit of secularism during the French Revolution, and then when things finally calmed down, where did they turn for moral guidance? We're seeing the same thing as of late, and with much of the structure standing, could it be possible that many will renew their faith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    https://www.newswars.com/french-stud...ut-notre-dame/

    https://www.newswars.com/not-everyon...ng-set-ablaze/

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/a...ring-holy-week

    But interestingly enough, the one that may win out is Christianity. Remember that there was quite a bit of secularism during the French Revolution, and then when things finally calmed down, where did they turn for moral guidance? We're seeing the same thing as of late, and with much of the structure standing, could it be possible that many will renew their faith?
    I'm guessing the church did a better job of keeping the whole pedophilia thing under wraps back in those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Remember that there was quite a bit of secularism during the French Revolution, and then when things finally calmed down, where did they turn for moral guidance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    The religious always find some sort of symbolism in everything. No doubt Muslim extremists are revelling in the symbolism of one of the greatest monuments to Christianity in flames.
    Probably got scared off by the little fire at the al Aqsa Mosque at the same time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Napoleon.

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    Napoleon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyeagle View Post
    He was such a Ziggy Piggy.
    I just spit my iced tea all over my screen, you magnificent bastige.
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    I just spit my iced tea all over my screen, you magnificent bastige.
    So that's what the kids are calling it these days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    What does insurance have to do with charging an admission???

    You said that few US churches charge admission, and the reason is that few are tourist destinations.
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    Re: Notre Dame Cathedral is burning down...

    US churches don't charge for admittance, and they all have private insurance. All moneys taken in are strictly through donations of their parishioners and visitors.
    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    US churches ... all have private insurance.
    They also aren't owned by the state. In France Cathedrals built before 1905, when their separation of church and state law was passed, remained property of the state (church and chapel building ownership was transferred to their parish).

    The state has far more resources than any private insurance company. Does the U.S. government have fire insurance on the Pentagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    US churches don't charge for admittance, and they all have private insurance. All moneys taken in are strictly through donations of their parishioners and visitors.
    Reminds me of an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    The state has far more resources than any private insurance company. Does the U.S. government have fire insurance on the Pentagon?
    Figures you equate the pentagon with a church

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