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    Quote Originally Posted by ecachawkeyfan View Post
    Were the Ref's scared to give out another 5 minute major? This one in the 3rd period? Afraid they were going to decide the game? It's the only explanation. Brutal non-call. I agree with Colby Cohen, it was the worst of the four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber View Post
    Were the Ref's scared to give out another 5 minute major? This one in the 3rd period? Afraid they were going to decide the game? It's the only explanation. Brutal non-call. I agree with Colby Cohen, it was the worst of the four.
    The refs absolutely should have called it. It was an illegal and dangerous hit. There is no room for it in college hockey. They made a huge mistake in not calling it. Thatís been said a lot.

    But thereís a system in place to challenge the refs if they mess up like this. Correct me if Iím wrong, but the punishment is a time out of youíre wrong. What was Denver saving the time out for there? I think the DU coach deserves just as much blame for not challenging. I mean, he clearly didnít care about UMass getting rest from a review, he wanted one. Just didnít want to lose his time out? I donít get it.

    The NCAA did the right thing afterwards by suspending him. Sucks for his teammates and the fans of the team, but jumping to elbow someone in the head isnít acceptable.

    Froma UMass fanís perspective, Vegara or Bozzo is going to be able to dress tonight and they wouldnít have otherwise. Mika is going to get more playing time. I hope they take advantage of this opportunity.

    Whatever happens tonight, itís been a hell of a season. Iím really proud to be a UMass alumni, fan, and season ticket holder.

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    Theyíre well on their way to becoming a blue blood, are they not?

    Some of the arrogance the fan base has shown sucks, but when youíre consistently winning in March and April, three straight title games, guys playing in the World Juniors and NHL regularly, Iíd say youíre well on your way to becoming a blue blood.
    I would agree. If Minnesota Duluth wins tonight, I think they join the ranks of the blue bloods. They would become only the sixth program to win three titles in a decade, and the first program to accomplish that feat since North Dakota in the 1980s (joining Michigan in the 50's (5 titles); Denver in the 60's (4 titles); BU in the 70's (3 titles); Minnesota in the 70's (3 titles); and North Dakota in the 80's (3 titles)). They have more Hobey Baker Award Winners (5) than any other program, and they would also have the best winning percentage in the history of the NCAA Tournament. They boast over 1100 wins in program history, with an all-time winning percentage over 0.500.

    The biggest issue that I would have with calling Duluth a "blue blood" is they only have 13 NCAA Tournament appearances. However, all 13 have come since 1983, and they have capitalized on those opportunities, making the Regional Finals all 13 times, with 7 trips to the Frozen Four and 5 trips to the National Championship game. At the very least, the Bulldogs are on the cusp of "blue blood" status, and I think with a title tonight, they ascend to that status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MavHockey14 View Post
    Theyíre well on their way to becoming a blue blood, are they not?

    Some of the arrogance the fan base has shown sucks, but when youíre consistently winning in March and April, three straight title games, guys playing in the World Juniors and NHL regularly, Iíd say youíre well on your way to becoming a blue blood.
    This is what bothers me with tUMD fans. Gopher fans tout tArrogance with tongue fully in cheek. tUMD fans are just a*holes about it (also see: UND). Note: some tUMD fans are really cool, and mimic the tongue-in-cheek approach that Gopher fans employ. I don't know any Gopher fan that WASN'T cheering for tUMD in 2011. That changed drastically soon after, that's how quick tUMD fans changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    I would agree. If Minnesota Duluth wins tonight, I think they join the ranks of the blue bloods. They would become only the sixth program to win three titles in a decade, and the first program to accomplish that feat since North Dakota in the 1980s (joining Michigan in the 50's (5 titles); Denver in the 60's (4 titles); BU in the 70's (3 titles); Minnesota in the 70's (3 titles); and North Dakota in the 80's (3 titles)). They have more Hobey Baker Award Winners (5) than any other program, and they would also have the best winning percentage in the history of the NCAA Tournament. They boast over 1100 wins in program history, with an all-time winning percentage over 0.500.

    The biggest issue that I would have with calling Duluth a "blue blood" is they only have 13 NCAA Tournament appearances. However, all 13 have come since 1983, and they have capitalized on those opportunities, making the Regional Finals all 13 times, with 7 trips to the Frozen Four and 5 trips to the National Championship game. At the very least, the Bulldogs are on the cusp of "blue blood" status, and I think with a title tonight, they ascend to that status.
    Nope. Theyíre basically Michigan Tech, Michigan State, Cornell, Maine status. A fine and proud history but still a pretty significant step behind. But good on them. Itís been a good run this past decade.

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    Re: 2019 Frozen Four: NCHC vs. Hockey East

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rube View Post
    I don't know any Gopher fan that WASN'T cheering for tUMD in 2011. That changed drastically soon after, that's how quick tUMD fans changed.
    I have not been in the State of Hockey much since 2011, but have not really witnessed a new (or any) tUMD arrogance. RWD has been gone for a while. Most of the tUMD fans I interact with are supportive of all Minnesota teams. I can even tolerate the Mavs now too. That said, my allegiance is first with the Gophers and UMD a close second. Go DOGS!!!!

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    Nope. Theyíre basically Michigan Tech, Michigan State, Cornell, Maine status. A fine and proud history but still a pretty significant step behind. But good on them. Itís been a good run this past decade.
    No. If the Bulldogs pull it off tonight they will have ascended to the elite status. Three titles in a decade is something only the elites have done. Throw in another title game appearance and you are looking at something that has only been accomplished four times, and not since the 1970s (i.e. 3 titles and 4 title game appearances in a decade).

    Now, just because you reach "blue blood" status doesn't mean it is permanent. For example, only the insane would have argued Tech wasnt a blue blood in 1980. They slipped significantly in the following decades, and now are in that second tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    No. If the Bulldogs pull it off tonight they will have ascended to the elite status. Three titles in a decade is something only the elites have done. Throw in another title game appearance and you are looking at something that has only been accomplished four times, and not since the 1970s (i.e. 3 titles and 4 title game appearances in a decade).

    Now, just because you reach "blue blood" status doesn't mean it is permanent. For example, only the insane would have argued Tech wasnt a blue blood in 1980. They slipped significantly in the following decades, and now are in that second tier.
    "Blue blood" is time-bound. The "greatest" overall program, Michigan, had nearly three straight decades where they where utterly irrelevant. UMD will be (already is) a teens blue blood. Their 11-19 is like Lake State 88-02 is like Cornell 67-73 is like Maine 95-04 is like BC 98-12. There are runs; that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    "Blue blood" is time-bound. The "greatest" overall program, Michigan, had nearly three straight decades where they where utterly irrelevant. UMD will be (already is) a teens blue blood. Their 11-19 is like Lake State 88-02 is like Cornell 67-73 is like Maine 95-04 is like BC 98-12. There are runs; that's all.
    I guess I dont understand your definition. Is Tech a blue blood? Is BC not a blue blood?

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    Re: 2019 Frozen Four: NCHC vs. Hockey East

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    "Blue blood" is time-bound. The "greatest" overall program, Michigan, had nearly three straight decades where they where utterly irrelevant. UMD will be (already is) a teens blue blood. Their 11-19 is like Lake State 88-02 is like Cornell 67-73 is like Maine 95-04 is like BC 98-12. There are runs; that's all.
    Agreed; that term might be obsolete in the modern context, but I'd deem UMD "elite" in the recent past.

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    Re: 2019 Frozen Four: NCHC vs. Hockey East

    And this game is on ESPN2. *sigh*. Bumped by UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber View Post
    And this game is on ESPN2. *sigh*. Bumped by UFC.
    Which was known since at least the regionals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    "Blue blood" is time-bound. The "greatest" overall program, Michigan, had nearly three straight decades where they where utterly irrelevant. UMD will be (already is) a teens blue blood. Their 11-19 is like Lake State 88-02 is like Cornell 67-73 is like Maine 95-04 is like BC 98-12. There are runs; that's all.
    Exactly. But not that it really matters, except to fans.

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    Re: 2019 Frozen Four: NCHC vs. Hockey East

    Why did they play the canadian national anthem? This is a US national championship.. not an international game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbunnell View Post
    Why did they play the canadian national anthem? This is a US national championship.. not an international game!
    Wondering the same thing.

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    Maybe itís customary in Buffalo?

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    Exactly. But not that it really matters, except to fans.
    So you dont believe that BC is a blue blood, either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber View Post
    And this game is on ESPN2. *sigh*. Bumped by UFC.
    Be thankful the NCAA makes ESPN televise these games at all. There are Twitch streamers with a larger viewing audience than many postseason college hockey games.

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    Anyone know where the ref crew is from?

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